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  #1  
Old 11-21-2005, 05:57 PM
Robert McGregor
 
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Australians reject HP to succeed with HM

More has been revealed

Australian educators and rehabilitators led the world into proven
success by rejecting outdated 12 step God mythology and adopting
scientific "Harm Minimisation" http://tinyurl.com/76egq

"The 13 per cent of drivers aged under 25 who now believe using drugs
such as marijuana, cocaine, speed or ecstasy before driving does not
affect their motoring skills has almost tripled from about five per
cent in 2001, according to a study commissioned by insurer AAMI." ..

...... "While 22 per cent of young people reporting having mixed
recreational drugs with driving, 13 per cent of those aged 25 or
older doing this is also high," http://tinyurl.com/8bynq

Given what they're doing, how else could it be!

Bob










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  #2  
Old 11-21-2005, 06:25 PM
Tommy
 
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Re: Australians reject HP to succeed with HM


"Robert McGregor" > More has been revealed
>
> Australian educators and rehabilitators led the world into proven
> success by rejecting outdated 12 step God mythology and adopting
> scientific "Harm Minimisation" http://tinyurl.com/76egq
> Given what they're doing, how else could it be!
>
> Bob


Given that HM is just another name for Methadone over here, I don't
particularly agree with it.. (our version)

I always maintained that the Australian approach is or was the most
revolutionary.

Ta for the links Bob,
I'm a member of a forum here which does a bit of good work in the
drugs/addiction field. I'd like to be more involved, but age and ambition
are against me, well that and the fact that we don't get paid for it.

Cheers
Tommy


  #3  
Old 11-21-2005, 07:16 PM
Barnsey
 
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Re: Australians reject HP to succeed with HM

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/gap/implement.html

Good work Robert.


  #4  
Old 11-21-2005, 07:52 PM
Tim and Lisa
 
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Re: Australians reject HP to succeed with HM


"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:43825ee7_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> More has been revealed
>
> Australian educators and rehabilitators led the world into proven
> success by rejecting outdated 12 step God mythology and adopting
> scientific "Harm Minimisation" http://tinyurl.com/76egq
>
> "The 13 per cent of drivers aged under 25 who now believe using drugs
> such as marijuana, cocaine, speed or ecstasy before driving does not
> affect their motoring skills has almost tripled from about five per
> cent in 2001, according to a study commissioned by insurer AAMI." ..
>
> ..... "While 22 per cent of young people reporting having mixed
> recreational drugs with driving, 13 per cent of those aged 25 or
> older doing this is also high," http://tinyurl.com/8bynq
>
> Given what they're doing, how else could it be!
>
> Bob
>
>



It sure never affected my driving either, drove for days as a matter of a
fact, but it sure interruped my living. ;o(


  #5  
Old 11-21-2005, 08:03 PM
Virtualoso
 
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Re: Australians reject HP to succeed with HM

In article <43825ee7_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, Robert McGregor
<robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> More has been revealed
>
> Australian educators and rehabilitators led the world into proven
> success by rejecting outdated 12 step God mythology and adopting
> scientific "Harm Minimisation" http://tinyurl.com/76egq
>
> "The 13 per cent of drivers aged under 25 who now believe using drugs
> such as marijuana, cocaine, speed or ecstasy before driving does not
> affect their motoring skills has almost tripled from about five per
> cent in 2001, according to a study commissioned by insurer AAMI." ..
>
> ..... "While 22 per cent of young people reporting having mixed
> recreational drugs with driving, 13 per cent of those aged 25 or
> older doing this is also high," http://tinyurl.com/8bynq
>
> Given what they're doing, how else could it be!


How 'bout drinking?
  #6  
Old 11-21-2005, 08:43 PM
Virtualoso
 
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Re: Australians reject HP to succeed with HM

In article <qRugf.43664$QM5.14008@tornado.socal.rr.com>, Tim and Lisa
<tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:

> "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:43825ee7_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> > More has been revealed
> >
> > Australian educators and rehabilitators led the world into proven
> > success by rejecting outdated 12 step God mythology and adopting
> > scientific "Harm Minimisation" http://tinyurl.com/76egq
> >
> > "The 13 per cent of drivers aged under 25 who now believe using drugs
> > such as marijuana, cocaine, speed or ecstasy before driving does not
> > affect their motoring skills has almost tripled from about five per
> > cent in 2001, according to a study commissioned by insurer AAMI." ..
> >
> > ..... "While 22 per cent of young people reporting having mixed
> > recreational drugs with driving, 13 per cent of those aged 25 or
> > older doing this is also high," http://tinyurl.com/8bynq
> >
> > Given what they're doing, how else could it be!


> It sure never affected my driving either, drove for days as a matter of a
> fact, but it sure interruped my living. ;o(


Ever drive drunk? If so, how'd that go?
  #7  
Old 11-21-2005, 09:15 PM
Tim and Lisa
 
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Re: Australians reject HP to succeed with HM


"Virtualoso" <no@dot.com> wrote in message
news:211120051843038983%no@dot.com...
> In article <qRugf.43664$QM5.14008@tornado.socal.rr.com>, Tim and Lisa
> <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote in
>> message
>> news:43825ee7_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>> > More has been revealed
>> >
>> > Australian educators and rehabilitators led the world into proven
>> > success by rejecting outdated 12 step God mythology and adopting
>> > scientific "Harm Minimisation" http://tinyurl.com/76egq
>> >
>> > "The 13 per cent of drivers aged under 25 who now believe using drugs
>> > such as marijuana, cocaine, speed or ecstasy before driving does not
>> > affect their motoring skills has almost tripled from about five per
>> > cent in 2001, according to a study commissioned by insurer AAMI." ..
>> >
>> > ..... "While 22 per cent of young people reporting having mixed
>> > recreational drugs with driving, 13 per cent of those aged 25 or
>> > older doing this is also high," http://tinyurl.com/8bynq
>> >
>> > Given what they're doing, how else could it be!

>
>> It sure never affected my driving either, drove for days as a matter of a
>> fact, but it sure interruped my living. ;o(

>
> Ever drive drunk? If so, how'd that go?


Well I have no accidents to report, except nodding off at a red light once
and bumped the car in front of me. Cops showed up with me idling up against
the car they shut my car off and then woke me up and asked where I was, (and
I can still remember today) I tried to look around and they said with out
looking and I could not tell where I was. ;o(


  #8  
Old 11-21-2005, 09:16 PM
stuart
 
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Re: Australians reject HP to succeed with HM


Robert McGregor <robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:43825ee7_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> More has been revealed
>
> Australian educators and rehabilitators led the world into proven
> success by rejecting outdated 12 step God mythology and adopting
> scientific "Harm Minimisation" http://tinyurl.com/76egq
>
> "The 13 per cent of drivers aged under 25 who now believe using drugs
> such as marijuana, cocaine, speed or ecstasy before driving does not
> affect their motoring skills has almost tripled from about five per
> cent in 2001, according to a study commissioned by insurer AAMI." ..
>
> ..... "While 22 per cent of young people reporting having mixed
> recreational drugs with driving, 13 per cent of those aged 25 or
> older doing this is also high," http://tinyurl.com/8bynq
>
> Given what they're doing, how else could it be!
>
> Bob


Dunna about Australai, Bob, but a really good little handbook for you is
"Robert's Rules of Order" for chairing committees.

Hey, I thought it was funny....

Nice work, Bob. I mean that. No joking this time, OK?

Stuart









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  #9  
Old 11-21-2005, 09:55 PM
Virtualoso
 
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Re: Australians reject HP to succeed with HM

In article <u3wgf.30831$Hs.22247@tornado.socal.rr.com>, Tim and Lisa
<tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:

> "Virtualoso" <no@dot.com> wrote in message
> news:211120051843038983%no@dot.com...
> > In article <qRugf.43664$QM5.14008@tornado.socal.rr.com>, Tim and Lisa
> > <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:43825ee7_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> >> > More has been revealed
> >> >
> >> > Australian educators and rehabilitators led the world into proven
> >> > success by rejecting outdated 12 step God mythology and adopting
> >> > scientific "Harm Minimisation" http://tinyurl.com/76egq
> >> >
> >> > "The 13 per cent of drivers aged under 25 who now believe using drugs
> >> > such as marijuana, cocaine, speed or ecstasy before driving does not
> >> > affect their motoring skills has almost tripled from about five per
> >> > cent in 2001, according to a study commissioned by insurer AAMI." ..
> >> >
> >> > ..... "While 22 per cent of young people reporting having mixed
> >> > recreational drugs with driving, 13 per cent of those aged 25 or
> >> > older doing this is also high," http://tinyurl.com/8bynq
> >> >
> >> > Given what they're doing, how else could it be!

> >
> >> It sure never affected my driving either, drove for days as a matter of a
> >> fact, but it sure interruped my living. ;o(

> >
> > Ever drive drunk? If so, how'd that go?

>
> Well I have no accidents to report, except nodding off at a red light once
> and bumped the car in front of me. Cops showed up with me idling up against
> the car they shut my car off and then woke me up and asked where I was, (and
> I can still remember today) I tried to look around and they said with out
> looking and I could not tell where I was. ;o(


So you do have an accident to report? Was that booze driving or just
snooze driving?
  #10  
Old 11-21-2005, 10:24 PM
Tim and Lisa
 
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Re: Australians reject HP to succeed with HM


"Virtualoso" <no@dot.com> wrote in message
news:211120051955259841%no@dot.com...
> In article <u3wgf.30831$Hs.22247@tornado.socal.rr.com>, Tim and Lisa
> <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> "Virtualoso" <no@dot.com> wrote in message
>> news:211120051843038983%no@dot.com...
>> > In article <qRugf.43664$QM5.14008@tornado.socal.rr.com>, Tim and Lisa
>> > <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:43825ee7_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>> >> > More has been revealed
>> >> >
>> >> > Australian educators and rehabilitators led the world into proven
>> >> > success by rejecting outdated 12 step God mythology and adopting
>> >> > scientific "Harm Minimisation" http://tinyurl.com/76egq
>> >> >
>> >> > "The 13 per cent of drivers aged under 25 who now believe using
>> >> > drugs
>> >> > such as marijuana, cocaine, speed or ecstasy before driving does not
>> >> > affect their motoring skills has almost tripled from about five per
>> >> > cent in 2001, according to a study commissioned by insurer AAMI." ..
>> >> >
>> >> > ..... "While 22 per cent of young people reporting having mixed
>> >> > recreational drugs with driving, 13 per cent of those aged 25 or
>> >> > older doing this is also high," http://tinyurl.com/8bynq
>> >> >
>> >> > Given what they're doing, how else could it be!
>> >
>> >> It sure never affected my driving either, drove for days as a matter
>> >> of a
>> >> fact, but it sure interruped my living. ;o(
>> >
>> > Ever drive drunk? If so, how'd that go?

>>
>> Well I have no accidents to report, except nodding off at a red light
>> once
>> and bumped the car in front of me. Cops showed up with me idling up
>> against
>> the car they shut my car off and then woke me up and asked where I was,
>> (and
>> I can still remember today) I tried to look around and they said with
>> out
>> looking and I could not tell where I was. ;o(

>
> So you do have an accident to report? Was that booze driving or just
> snooze driving?


Actually drove drunk a lot of times, but this time I nodded off on some
heroin.


 


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