damn it's hard when i was raised in an alcoholic
home watching my parents get all fucked up, even
watching them do drugs, and that's how i grew up,
and turned into the epitomy of what i hated.
Fucking sad, i will get through this sober my ass
up. And get my head out of my ass very soon.
WOn't be long now you'll see.

Bryan wrote:
> damn it's hard when i was raised in an alcoholic home watching my
> parents get all fucked up, even watching them do drugs, and that's how i
> grew up, and turned into the epitomy of what i hated. Fucking sad, i
> will get through this sober my ass up. And get my head out of my ass
> very soon. WOn't be long now you'll see.
i've been drinking but i lurk here for a reason.
past denial past all the bullshit now just time to
put it in action. familiar with aa too. I need
to sober up i've noticed i've been drinking ALOT
more lately it is time. please advise.

"Bryan" <bekberg@charter.net> wrote in message
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> please advise.

http://tinyurl.com/8py4u

Robert McGregor wrote:
> "Bryan" <bekberg@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:EVDbf.60290$RG4.60258@fe05.lga...
>
>>please advise.
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8py4u
>
>
thanks i've read the big book twice. I like
chapter 5 too.

"Bryan" <bekberg@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Robert McGregor wrote:
>> "Bryan" <bekberg@charter.net> wrote in message
>> news:EVDbf.60290$RG4.60258@fe05.lga...
>>
>>>please advise.
>>
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/8py4u
> thanks i've read the big book twice. I like chapter 5 too.

My advice is:- The _*instant*_ you find enough hope that recovery is
*actually* possible for you, stop drinking, one day at a time, while,
one sentence at a time, keep *complying* with those simple (if in my
case far from easy) instructions. If you discover you cannot comply,
get off yer arse and find out why!

That's all there need be to it. For me, anyway, popular complications
were not mandatory, at all. I did not even have to find a God,
http://tinyurl.com/eyypr just modified my life a tad in case a God
found me.

Bob

"Bryan" <bekberg@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Robert McGregor wrote:
> > "Bryan" <bekberg@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:EVDbf.60290$RG4.60258@fe05.lga...
> >
> >>please advise.
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/8py4u
> >
> >
> thanks i've read the big book twice. I like
> chapter 5 too.

Bryan --

We're all different, so there's no one-size-fits-all solution to
anything. But I'd see if you could find an AA group and sit in on a few
meetings. I've been back in the program for about three weeks after feeling
just the way you said in your original post. Haven't been perfect since
going back in, but I do know that going to a meeting at least keeps me sober
for an hour and gives me a lot to think about ...

Reading the book is one thing, but talking about it with people you know
have been there -- and more than likely in a lot worse situations than
yours -- does more good (for ME, anyway, maybe not for you) than just
reading the book alone.

Keep plugging away, man.

Sardonicus Rex

It does not matter whether you like it or not. Just do what it says...
Or drink youreself to death, the same with me.

Robert McGregor wrote:
> "Bryan" <bekberg@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:%zEbf.629$GT3.139@fe02.lga...
>
>>Robert McGregor wrote:
>>
>>>"Bryan" <bekberg@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>news:EVDbf.60290$RG4.60258@fe05.lga...
>>>
>>>
>>>>please advise.
>>>
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/8py4u
>>
>>thanks i've read the big book twice. I like chapter 5 too.
>
>
> My advice is:- The _*instant*_ you find enough hope that recovery is
> *actually* possible for you, stop drinking, one day at a time, while,
> one sentence at a time, keep *complying* with those simple (if in my
> case far from easy) instructions. If you discover you cannot comply,
> get off yer arse and find out why!
>
> That's all there need be to it. For me, anyway, popular complications
> were not mandatory, at all. I did not even have to find a God,
> http://tinyurl.com/eyypr just modified my life a tad in case a God
> found me.
>
> Bob
>
>
that's cool i didn't know they had a version online!

"Sardonicus Rex" <dontaskiwonttell@leavemealone.com> wrote in message
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> "Bryan" <bekberg@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:%zEbf.629$GT3.139@fe02.lga...
>> Robert McGregor wrote:
>> > "Bryan" <bekberg@charter.net> wrote in message
>> > news:EVDbf.60290$RG4.60258@fe05.lga...
>> >
>> >>please advise.
>> >
>> >
>> > http://tinyurl.com/8py4u
>> >
>> >
>> thanks i've read the big book twice. I like
>> chapter 5 too.
>
> Bryan --
>
> We're all different, so there's no one-size-fits-all solution to
> anything. But I'd see if you could find an AA group and sit in on a
> few
> meetings. I've been back in the program for about three weeks after
> feeling
> just the way you said in your original post. Haven't been perfect
> since
> going back in, but I do know that going to a meeting at least keeps
> me sober
> for an hour and gives me a lot to think about ...
>
> Reading the book is one thing, but talking about it with people
> you know
> have been there -- and more than likely in a lot worse situations
> than
> yours -- does more good (for ME, anyway, maybe not for you) than
> just
> reading the book alone.
>
> Keep plugging away, man.
>
> Sardonicus Rex
>

Have you ever heard of "90 day wonders" then wondered if your
brilliant 60 minute expertise is actually stopping you from
recovering?

Bob

"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@knickers.yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Sardonicus Rex" <dontaskiwonttell@leavemealone.com> wrote in message
> news7adneI737WR6vLenZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@gbronline.co m...
> > "Bryan" <bekberg@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:%zEbf.629$GT3.139@fe02.lga...
> >> Robert McGregor wrote:
> >> > "Bryan" <bekberg@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:EVDbf.60290$RG4.60258@fe05.lga...
> >> >
> >> >>please advise.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/8py4u
> >> >
> >> >
> >> thanks i've read the big book twice. I like
> >> chapter 5 too.
> >
> > Bryan --
> >
> > We're all different, so there's no one-size-fits-all solution to
> > anything. But I'd see if you could find an AA group and sit in on a
> > few
> > meetings. I've been back in the program for about three weeks after
> > feeling
> > just the way you said in your original post. Haven't been perfect
> > since
> > going back in, but I do know that going to a meeting at least keeps
> > me sober
> > for an hour and gives me a lot to think about ...
> >
> > Reading the book is one thing, but talking about it with people
> > you know
> > have been there -- and more than likely in a lot worse situations
> > than
> > yours -- does more good (for ME, anyway, maybe not for you) than
> > just
> > reading the book alone.
> >
> > Keep plugging away, man.
> >
> > Sardonicus Rex
> >
>
> Have you ever heard of "90 day wonders" then wondered if your
> brilliant 60 minute expertise is actually stopping you from
> recovering?
>
> Bob

I don't believe all my problems will end with AA, but if it works for me --
and I haven't exactly been in long enough to render an honest opinion --
what the hell? I never said it was the right thing for everybody. We're all
different. I've met some cool folks in AA, they don't beat me up, and some
of them have come through a lot worse crap than I have.

What's your big beef with AA, Bob? Just curious.