Alcoholics who smoke appear to lose more brain mass than alcoholics
who don't smoke, according to a study at the San Francisco VA Medical
Center.

It is already well-known that the brains of long-term alcoholics
atrophy and shrink, the study authors say, but the new findings are
the first evidence that cigarette smoking might contribute to that
atrophy, particularly in grey matter of the parietal and temporal
lobes.

Fifty to 90 percent of alcoholics also are smokers, according to
Dieter Meyerhoff, PhD, a radiology researcher at SFVAMC and the
principal investigator of the study

"Just looking at the amount of tissue mass lost due to either drinking
or smoking, alcoholics who smoke show a greater loss in some regions
of the brain compared to alcoholics who don't smoke," says Meyerhoff,
who also is a professor of radiology at the University of California,
San Francisco.

The study, which was published in the August 2005 issue of Alcoholism:
Clinical and Experimental Research, compared 37 recovering alcoholics
between the ages of 26 and 66 with a control group of 30 healthy light
drinkers. The researchers used magnetic resonance imaging, a safe,
non-invasive imaging technique, to measure brain volumes of the study
participants.

They discovered that the more severe the tobacco habit, the greater
the brain injury. "In smoking alcohol-dependent individuals, smaller
regional [brain] volumes are related to greater cigarette-smoking
severity," according to the study findings, with severity measured by
level of nicotine dependence, cigarettes smoked per day, and years of
smoking.


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I wish someone would study the effects of smoking and IQ.I definitely
feel smoking has made me dumber.Must be the carbon monoxide killing off
the little grey cells or arteriolar constriction or some of the 200 odd
toxins.I am serious,I used to have a photographic memory until I
started smoking,even though I wasn't a heavy smoker.
I always found it harder to concentrate on a mental task with a
nicotine buzz too,its like I had ADD or something.
Anyone else feel that way?

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"terri" <tagra70virg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1128009518.107785.231660@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I wish someone would study the effects of smoking and IQ.I definitely
> feel smoking has made me dumber.Must be the carbon monoxide killing off
> the little grey cells or arteriolar constriction or some of the 200 odd
> toxins.I am serious,I used to have a photographic memory until I
> started smoking,even though I wasn't a heavy smoker.
> I always found it harder to concentrate on a mental task with a
> nicotine buzz too,its like I had ADD or something.
> Anyone else feel that way?
>

Tom wrote:
> Alcoholics who smoke appear to lose more brain mass than alcoholics
> who don't smoke, according to a study at the San Francisco VA Medical
> Center.
>
> It is already well-known that the brains of long-term alcoholics
> atrophy and shrink, the study authors say, but the new findings are
> the first evidence that cigarette smoking might contribute to that
> atrophy, particularly in grey matter of the parietal and temporal
> lobes.
>
> Fifty to 90 percent of alcoholics also are smokers, according to
> Dieter Meyerhoff, PhD, a radiology researcher at SFVAMC and the
> principal investigator of the study
>
> "Just looking at the amount of tissue mass lost due to either drinking
> or smoking, alcoholics who smoke show a greater loss in some regions
> of the brain compared to alcoholics who don't smoke," says Meyerhoff,
> who also is a professor of radiology at the University of California,
> San Francisco.
>
> The study, which was published in the August 2005 issue of Alcoholism:
> Clinical and Experimental Research, compared 37 recovering alcoholics
> between the ages of 26 and 66 with a control group of 30 healthy light
> drinkers. The researchers used magnetic resonance imaging, a safe,
> non-invasive imaging technique, to measure brain volumes of the study
> participants.
>
> They discovered that the more severe the tobacco habit, the greater
> the brain injury. "In smoking alcohol-dependent individuals, smaller
> regional [brain] volumes are related to greater cigarette-smoking
> severity," according to the study findings, with severity measured by
> level of nicotine dependence, cigarettes smoked per day, and years of
> smoking.
>
>
> More -
> http://anxpangazette.blog-city.com/
>
> http://anxpangazette.blog-city.com/s...coholi cs.htm
who cares?

Yes, so whats so hard to figure. You figured it out and since body is
connected, you know heart connected to muscles that are connected and so on
, yes, at some point do what I did and stop while you realize what damage
its done. I wish I never ever started. Truly I was lost in space when I
smoked. The worse thing I ever did. Now that you know make a new life for
yoruself with new found health. Body has amazing ability to heal if you do
right things ( hence my rants against air pollution). . Good luck
"terri" <tagra70virg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1128009518.107785.231660@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I wish someone would study the effects of smoking and IQ.I definitely
> feel smoking has made me dumber.Must be the carbon monoxide killing off
> the little grey cells or arteriolar constriction or some of the 200 odd
> toxins.I am serious,I used to have a photographic memory until I
> started smoking,even though I wasn't a heavy smoker.
> I always found it harder to concentrate on a mental task with a
> nicotine buzz too,its like I had ADD or something.
> Anyone else feel that way?
>

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:45:27 GMT, "robbb"
<robbb@DROPCAPS@ciggyfree.org> wrote:

>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/718160.stm
>
>
>
>"terri" <tagra70virg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1128009518.107785.231660@g14g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>>I wish someone would study the effects of smoking and IQ.I definitely
>> feel smoking has made me dumber.Must be the carbon monoxide killing off
>> the little grey cells or arteriolar constriction or some of the 200 odd
>> toxins.I am serious,I used to have a photographic memory until I
>> started smoking,even though I wasn't a heavy smoker.
>> I always found it harder to concentrate on a mental task with a
>> nicotine buzz too,its like I had ADD or something.
>> Anyone else feel that way?

Huh, what else you been somoking?

Regards
>>
>
>

Daveb

terri wrote:

> I wish someone would study the effects of smoking and IQ.I definitely
> feel smoking has made me dumber.Must be the carbon monoxide killing off
> the little grey cells or arteriolar constriction or some of the 200 odd
> toxins.I am serious,I used to have a photographic memory until I
> started smoking,even though I wasn't a heavy smoker.
> I always found it harder to concentrate on a mental task with a
> nicotine buzz too,its like I had ADD or something.
> Anyone else feel that way?
>
definitely was feeling the add thing in the end. especially the last 6
months. my attention span hasn't improved significantly but the ability
to finish things has improved - mostly because i don't have to keep
going out to smoke.

See, I have a whole different take on this - call me a mean unenlightened
bastard (or don't - I'm not worthy of that much of your mental energy
expenditure) - but I think that brain damage is what causes people to smoke.

G


"robbb" <robbb@DROPCAPS@ciggyfree.org> wrote in message
news:HSU_e.17024$L15.15739@trndny01...
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/718160.stm
>
>
>
> "terri" <tagra70virg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1128009518.107785.231660@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>I wish someone would study the effects of smoking and IQ.I definitely
>> feel smoking has made me dumber.Must be the carbon monoxide killing off
>> the little grey cells or arteriolar constriction or some of the 200 odd
>> toxins.I am serious,I used to have a photographic memory until I
>> started smoking,even though I wasn't a heavy smoker.
>> I always found it harder to concentrate on a mental task with a
>> nicotine buzz too,its like I had ADD or something.
>> Anyone else feel that way?
>>
>
>

One of the things that turns me off about AA is that most smokers spend the
entire meeting or at least half of it outside smoking. I went to a meeting
last week. One guy kept going on and on, yapping about "how sick" he was
and how badly he needed that meeting. He then proceeded to spend the entire
meeting outside, smoking and socializing with the rest of the smokers who
couldn't go without for an hour. <sigh> Drinking was more of an addiction
for me than smoking was, guess I am lucky there.

"Tom" <tom349825672345678@4ax.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:5c06f5d3237fc9113e27e020c92a5df0@4ax.com...
> Alcoholics who smoke appear to lose more brain mass than alcoholics
> who don't smoke, according to a study at the San Francisco VA Medical
> Center.
>
> It is already well-known that the brains of long-term alcoholics
> atrophy and shrink, the study authors say, but the new findings are
> the first evidence that cigarette smoking might contribute to that
> atrophy, particularly in grey matter of the parietal and temporal
> lobes.
>
> Fifty to 90 percent of alcoholics also are smokers, according to
> Dieter Meyerhoff, PhD, a radiology researcher at SFVAMC and the
> principal investigator of the study
>
> "Just looking at the amount of tissue mass lost due to either drinking
> or smoking, alcoholics who smoke show a greater loss in some regions
> of the brain compared to alcoholics who don't smoke," says Meyerhoff,
> who also is a professor of radiology at the University of California,
> San Francisco.
>
> The study, which was published in the August 2005 issue of Alcoholism:
> Clinical and Experimental Research, compared 37 recovering alcoholics
> between the ages of 26 and 66 with a control group of 30 healthy light
> drinkers. The researchers used magnetic resonance imaging, a safe,
> non-invasive imaging technique, to measure brain volumes of the study
> participants.
>
> They discovered that the more severe the tobacco habit, the greater
> the brain injury. "In smoking alcohol-dependent individuals, smaller
> regional [brain] volumes are related to greater cigarette-smoking
> severity," according to the study findings, with severity measured by
> level of nicotine dependence, cigarettes smoked per day, and years of
> smoking.
>
>
> More -
> http://anxpangazette.blog-city.com/
>
> http://anxpangazette.blog-city.com/s...coholi cs.htm

Tom wrote:
> Alcoholics who smoke appear to lose more brain mass than alcoholics
> who don't smoke, according to a study at the San Francisco VA Medical
> Center.
>
> It is already well-known that the brains of long-term alcoholics
> atrophy and shrink, the study authors say, but the new findings are
> the first evidence that cigarette smoking might contribute to that
> atrophy, particularly in grey matter of the parietal and temporal
> lobes.
>
> Fifty to 90 percent of alcoholics also are smokers, according to
> Dieter Meyerhoff, PhD, a radiology researcher at SFVAMC and the
> principal investigator of the study
>
> "Just looking at the amount of tissue mass lost due to either drinking
> or smoking, alcoholics who smoke show a greater loss in some regions
> of the brain compared to alcoholics who don't smoke," says Meyerhoff,
> who also is a professor of radiology at the University of California,
> San Francisco.
>
> The study, which was published in the August 2005 issue of Alcoholism:
> Clinical and Experimental Research, compared 37 recovering alcoholics
> between the ages of 26 and 66 with a control group of 30 healthy light
> drinkers. The researchers used magnetic resonance imaging, a safe,
> non-invasive imaging technique, to measure brain volumes of the study
> participants.
>
> They discovered that the more severe the tobacco habit, the greater
> the brain injury. "In smoking alcohol-dependent individuals, smaller
> regional [brain] volumes are related to greater cigarette-smoking
> severity," according to the study findings, with severity measured by
> level of nicotine dependence, cigarettes smoked per day, and years of
> smoking.
>
>
> More -
> http://anxpangazette.blog-city.com/
>
> http://anxpangazette.blog-city.com/s...coholi cs.htm
i guess it's a good think i quit smoking then right..