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Old 09-01-2005, 03:35 AM
Nuther drunk
 
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mechanism of the "no brakes" phenomenon

The thing that baffles me is the phenomenon of my drinking behavior vs
others that sip a bit and stop.

When I start to drink, I'm driven to drink far more than is healthy.
Others have their second drink and wave off any refills.

Has anyone determined any particular brain chemistry involved with
this difference? Is it just that I enjoy getting falling-down drunk
while others are satisfied with a nice glow?

The thing I've heard in AA meetings is that I (and other drunks) just
don't have an "off-switch". This seems pretty simplistic, and I'm sure
some researcher has at least posited a biochemical reason for our
situation.

I like the feelings I get after a few drinks. I can't turn it off
though, while others seem quite naturally able to do so.

Obviously the solution is to just stop drinking, which I'm perfectly
willing to do. At least I'd like to know the reason we're different.
Has any headway been made in this direction? Or is it simply a
behavioral issue?

Thanks for any info.

ND
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Old 09-01-2005, 04:13 AM
Robert McGregor
 
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Re: mechanism of the "no brakes" phenomenon

"Nuther drunk" <drunk@thebar.com> wrote in message
news:6redh11pa4di6ghdlnrv6ph87dekc3t91m@4ax.com
> The thing that baffles me is the phenomenon of my drinking
> behavior vs others that sip a bit and stop.
>
> When I start to drink, I'm driven to drink far more than is
> healthy. Others have their second drink and wave off any refills.
>
> Has anyone determined any particular brain chemistry involved with
> this difference? Is it just that I enjoy getting falling-down drunk
> while others are satisfied with a nice glow?
>


This explanation of my behaviour, http://tinyurl.com/cscw6 regularly
reprinted for over half a century now, satisfied me.

Bob


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Old 09-01-2005, 09:05 AM
stuart
 
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Re: mechanism of the "no brakes" phenomenon


Nuther drunk <drunk@thebar.com> wrote in message
news:6redh11pa4di6ghdlnrv6ph87dekc3t91m@4ax.com...
> The thing that baffles me is the phenomenon of my drinking behavior vs
> others that sip a bit and stop.
>
> When I start to drink, I'm driven to drink far more than is healthy.
> Others have their second drink and wave off any refills.
>
> Has anyone determined any particular brain chemistry involved with
> this difference? Is it just that I enjoy getting falling-down drunk
> while others are satisfied with a nice glow?
>
> The thing I've heard in AA meetings is that I (and other drunks) just
> don't have an "off-switch". This seems pretty simplistic, and I'm sure
> some researcher has at least posited a biochemical reason for our
> situation.
>
> I like the feelings I get after a few drinks. I can't turn it off
> though, while others seem quite naturally able to do so.
>
> Obviously the solution is to just stop drinking, which I'm perfectly
> willing to do. At least I'd like to know the reason we're different.
> Has any headway been made in this direction? Or is it simply a
> behavioral issue?
>
> Thanks for any info.
>
> ND


Another wannabe Einstein alcoholic. Betcha can't quit forever.


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Old 09-01-2005, 08:20 PM
Been There, Got a mug
 
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Re: mechanism of the "no brakes" phenomenon

see http://www.addictiondoctor.com/LibraryPDFs/

I met Kevin at a speakers meeting last year.
His done extensive research of how the mid-brain,
which drives a humans survival needs, reacts
when under the influence of drugs or alcohol between
addicts and *normalies*. That is why once we start
we can't quit. The mid brains goes into survival fight or
flight stage of reasoning when deprived of alcohol.

  #5  
Old 09-01-2005, 08:28 PM
Ken Ragge
 
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Re: mechanism of the "no brakes" phenomenon

Been There, Got a mug wrote:
> see http://www.addictiondoctor.com/LibraryPDFs/
>
> I met Kevin at a speakers meeting last year.
> His done extensive research of how the mid-brain,
> which drives a humans survival needs, reacts
> when under the influence of drugs or alcohol between
> addicts and *normalies*. That is why once we start
> we can't quit. The mid brains goes into survival fight or
> flight stage of reasoning when deprived of alcohol.
>

Been There,

Has Kevin also told you how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:42 PM
Been There, Got a mug
 
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Re: mechanism of the "no brakes" phenomenon

Thanks for sharing Ken.
That particular question never came up.

Do you have an answer that will satisfy all of us?

That was asked in the 1990's JFK movie during the
court room closing argument. I don't recall
the exact answer. If you have it on VCR or something
maybe you review it and report back ;-) .

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Old 09-02-2005, 12:07 PM
Dan McGown
 
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Re: mechanism of the "no brakes" phenomenon


"Ken Ragge" <ken@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:96KdnZ2dnZ24Q0bunZ2dnS03it6dnZ2dRVn-y52dnZ0@comcast.com...
> Been There, Got a mug wrote:
>> see http://www.addictiondoctor.com/LibraryPDFs/
>>
>> I met Kevin at a speakers meeting last year.
>> His done extensive research of how the mid-brain,
>> which drives a humans survival needs, reacts
>> when under the influence of drugs or alcohol between
>> addicts and *normalies*. That is why once we start
>> we can't quit. The mid brains goes into survival fight or
>> flight stage of reasoning when deprived of alcohol.
>>

> Been There,
>
> Has Kevin also told you how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
>
> Ken Ragge
> http://www.morerevealed.com


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