Welcome to our new blog:

http://alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.blogspot.com

Kind regards

Lilian and Murdoch
http://www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com

why bother with booze? just smoke good bud and drink good tea.
<alcocure@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Welcome to our new blog:
>
> http://alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.blogspot.com
>
> Kind regards
>
> Lilian and Murdoch
> http://www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
>

jim wrote:
> why bother with booze? just smoke good bud and drink good tea.
> <alcocure@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
>>Welcome to our new blog:
>>
>>http://alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.blogspot.com
>>
>>Kind regards
>>
>>Lilian and Murdoch
>>http://www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
>>
>
>
>
I wonder if they'd waste the time putting up a
website if they weren't trying to sell things on
it??

lets assume a %(small) of alcoholics are able to drink normally again.
if you tell everyone this the chances are many will try and many will
relapse.

to an alcoholic that may sem like a good option but realistically if
there exists the possibility that returning to drinking will destroy
your family and eventually you why risk it????



On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:01:11 GMT, "jim" <dingdong46@shaw.ca> wrote:

>why bother with booze? just smoke good bud and drink good tea.
><alcocure@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> Welcome to our new blog:
>>
>> http://alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.blogspot.com
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Lilian and Murdoch
>> http://www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
>>
>

To: someone in need
> From Newsgroup: alt.recovery.addiction.alcoholism
>
> lets assume a %(small) of alcoholics are able to drink normally again.
> if you tell everyone this the chances are many will try and many will
> relapse.
>
> to an alcoholic that may sem like a good option but realistically if
> there exists the possibility that returning to drinking will destroy
> your family and eventually you why risk it????
>
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:01:11 GMT, "jim" <dingdong46@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> >why bother with booze? just smoke good bud and drink good tea.
> ><alcocure@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:1120303161.241368.112290@g49g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
> >> Welcome to our new blog:
> >>Hi ,
I had been recovered for 17 years.........and about three years ago I started
having a glass or so of wine a couple a times a year when I was out with the
girls ( my husband is also a recovering alcoholic of 20 years now ) and to
this day I still like to have some wine........although I've noticed it's a
little more often and my husband doesn't know about it !! I definitly think
I'm playing with fire . I think I got pissed off at being labeled as an
alcoholic and wanted to be freakin normal........???
> >> http://alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Lilian and Murdoch
> >> http://www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
> >>
> >
>
> --- Synchronet 3.13a-Linux NewsLink 1.83

"someone in need" <nospamplease@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:4q77h1dveu3vusa1dks9lt3rnb7k9aseqm@4ax.com
> lets assume a %(small) of alcoholics are able to drink normally
> again. if you tell everyone this the chances are many will try and
> many will relapse.
>
> to an alcoholic that may sem like a good option but realistically
> if there exists the possibility that returning to drinking will
> destroy your family and eventually you why risk it????

Best not take the family in an aeroplane, boat, car, or bicycle
etc.etc., for the same reason!

?

Bob


>
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:01:11 GMT, "jim" <dingdong46@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> why bother with booze? just smoke good bud and drink good tea.
>> <alcocure@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1120303161.241368.112290@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Welcome to our new blog:
>>>
>>> http://alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Lilian and Murdoch
>>> http://www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com

Bryan wrote:
>>> Welcome to our new blog:
>>>
>>> http://alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Lilian and Murdoch
>>> http://www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> I wonder if they'd waste the time putting up a website if they weren't
> trying to sell things on it??

Bryan,

I don't know them, but I see no reason why they wouldn't. Few people
write non-fiction books for the money. They write them because they
have things to say. If one were to write in the non-fiction genre about
excessive drinking, they could come up with something that Hazeldon and
the Big Wigs in AA would like. There is money there. As it is, I think
they merely have found the lie of the AA disease theory and AA doctrine
and want to tell about it.

Of course, this is not saying everyone should drink or even bother to
moderate. For many people it is just too much work, life is too short,
and there are too many other things to do.

Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com

Ken Ragge wrote:
> Bryan wrote:
>
>>>> Welcome to our new blog:
>>>>
>>>> http://alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Lilian and Murdoch
>>>> http://www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I wonder if they'd waste the time putting up a website if they weren't
>> trying to sell things on it??
>
>
> Bryan,
>
> I don't know them, but I see no reason why they wouldn't. Few people
> write non-fiction books for the money. They write them because they
> have things to say. If one were to write in the non-fiction genre about
> excessive drinking, they could come up with something that Hazeldon and
> the Big Wigs in AA would like. There is money there. As it is, I think
> they merely have found the lie of the AA disease theory and AA doctrine
> and want to tell about it.
>
> Of course, this is not saying everyone should drink or even bother to
> moderate. For many people it is just too much work, life is too short,
> and there are too many other things to do.
>
> Ken Ragge
> http://www.morerevealed.com
As much as i don't agree with much of what you got
to say, and i really don't think you believe what
you say. I think you got ulterior motives,

However, damnit your making me think. Been going
to wrong meetings or something lately people are
rubbing me the wrong way at the meetings. Other
meetings i've been to in a different city i lived
in were better. The meetings i've been going to
now are different. I don't like 'em. The AA
concept is this is the only way.. As much as i buy
into that i'm starting to have a fucking hard time
with that. I post this i guarantee i'm going to
get flamed by someone.

Another hard time i have is when someone stumbles
into this website questioning there drinking when
they really do not have the knowledge of what
alcoholism is, some of the posters are fucking
hard on them!! Be nicer, there going to say fuck
AA and fuck this NG before they give it a chance.

Well, final thought, i'm going to continue to go
to AA but i am questioning AA a little more than i
probably should. For that i am feeling really
guilty about, cause the logical part of me is
saying to do it the AA way.

Bryan

> Well, final thought, i'm going to continue to go
> to AA but i am questioning AA a little more than i probably should. For
> that i am feeling really guilty about, cause the logical part of me is
> saying to do it the AA way.
>
> Bryan

Bryan why should you not question AA? It is your life not anyone else's. The
only truly dangerous thing to question for someone like me is whether or not
I can take a drink and get away with it. If you really want to get something
from AA remember the only requirement for membership is a desire to stop
drinking. Take what you truly need to stay sober and share what is helping
you stay sober. AA could use more people that think and speak from the heart
and less parrots. There are also other sobriety support groups and many just
plain old healthy groups and activities that one can participate in which
support your sobriety. Relax and enjoy being sober. If you are ever told by
anyone to do it this way or you'll drink and die, look elsewhere for
inspiration. :-)

Gregg

On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 23:53:03 GMT, someone in need
<nospamplease@somewhere.com> wrote:

>lets assume a %(small) of alcoholics are able to drink normally again.
>if you tell everyone this the chances are many will try and many will
>relapse.
>
>to an alcoholic that may sem like a good option but realistically if
>there exists the possibility that returning to drinking will destroy
>your family and eventually you why risk it????

ahem.

By definition, the true alchoholic presently _will_ risk it, no matter
what you or anyone else tells them or fails to tell them or if anybody
gives a damn at all.

Sorry to bear bad news.

Fear of consequence does not generally hold sufficient sway to counter
a mental compulsion of the alcoholic nature for long.

Nice idea, though.


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