In message <bftl06$iu60j$1@ID-49289.news.uni-berlin.de>, Robert McGregor
<robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> writes
>That would keep your sexual preference topical, which seems to be your
>ambition.

I never raised it - moony did. It was the response of others on this
group to abuse that subsequently began to interest me. Human nature and
in particular that of humans with alcohol problems interests me.

--
Jonathan Bratt

Hey folks,
I have an idea that's ridiculous, but I still need to credit the American
acedemics for coming up with it first.

Wasn't there a time in the US 60's and 70's that they wanted to change the
language so that it wasn't gender specific (wasn't it called esparanto or
something? about 20 years before my time).

Still, I understand that people got upset that "man" refered to the human race
in general...........

so they (and I'm sure it cost millions and took a bunch of PhDs to figure this
out) they started making up new words like "Shim" to encompase all genders, so
nobody got offended.
Then you could sound really savy, and say, "yeah, shim and I went for dinner
last night......" Or, just sound paranoid?
sometimes you shims are aggrevating, but it is sort of like being in a new
virtual family. Let's just burry the hatchet and drop this one, what do you
shims say?

just a thought,
john

In message <20030726073510.06272.00001027@mb-m03.aol.com>, Bpyboy
<bpyboy@aol.com> writes
>Wasn't there a time in the US 60's and 70's that they wanted to change
>the language so that it wasn't gender specific (wasn't it called
>esparanto or something? about 20 years before my time).

FYI Esperanto was designed as a world language. It may have been
non-gender specific but that was not the intention.
--
Jonathan Bratt

In message <cYuUa.2134$jI6.931@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com>, Moonraker
<fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> writes
>What else could it be? Why else would a confessed non-alcoholic with
>an ambition to drink again be posting in this group except to call
>attention to himself? As Gail said the other day, if you aren't
>sober, know how to get sober, or want to get sober, then shut the fuck
>up. Little Jonny isn't any of above, and he needs to heed some good
>advise.

Well - I'm not drinking and have not decided yet whether I will or not
til September 21. So I am sober. I am going for therapy so will be
getting advice of a quality you may not understand.
--
Jonathan Bratt

In message <vi5klrl3snel8f@corp.supernews.com>, Gail
<serenity6850_2000@yahoo.com> writes
>Jonathan Bratt wrote:
>> In message <cYuUa.2134$jI6.931@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com>, Moonraker
>> <fuggadaboutit@bellsouth.net> writes
>>> What else could it be? Why else would a confessed non-alcoholic with
>>> an ambition to drink again be posting in this group except to call
>>> attention to himself? As Gail said the other day, if you aren't
>>> sober, know how to get sober, or want to get sober, then shut the
>>> fuck up. Little Jonny isn't any of above, and he needs to heed
>>> some good advise.
>>
>> Well - I'm not drinking and have not decided yet whether I will or not
>> til September 21. So I am sober. I am going for therapy so will be
>> getting advice of a quality you may not understand.
>
>Gosh, I wish I could have been able to decide that for myself and srick to
>it.
>
>

Well - I've had some pretty good help.
--
Jonathan Bratt

On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 08:40:57 +0100, Jonathan Bratt
<jonnybratt@aol.com> wrote:

>In message <ab4faae6454cfeb511bbdbd3e0b1b4a9@free.teranews.co m>, Blue
>Moon <mfoco@hotmail.com> writes
>>On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 07:26:45 +0100, Jonathan Bratt
>><jonnybratt@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <b50820662e7d2085d7b65f5700aefa69@free.teranews.co m>, Blue
>>>Moon <mfoco@hotmail.com> writes
>>
>>>>According to my newsreader, Moonraker has so far had no participation
>>>>in this thread whatsoever. That's just my point ... you're the one
>>>>still fanning that fire.
>>
>>>I suggest you reread.
>>>
>>>His contributions included saying it was a natural assumption on his
>>>part that I would be sexually interested in children; calling me
>>>'pansy'; and ending with: 'got AIDS yet fagboy'.
>>
>>This thread is titled "I'm pretty new, but...". I'll say again,
>>according to my newsreader, Moonraker has so far had no participation
>>in this thread whatsoever.
>>
>The original post contained this:
>
>"Most of us don't come here to discuss sexual orientation, politics,
>narcissism other than as related to alcoholism, or personal attacks on
>other participants.
>
> As an exercise, cast a scatter diagram on the topics of the
>last 100 posts. How many fit the topics described by the first
>paragraph and how many instead are covered by the second paragraph?
>
> We either ought to rename the group
>"alt.self.destructive.behavior" or we should try to remember what we had
>in mind when we looked for this group in the first place."
>
>I responded to this

Quite. Which rather seems to prove my point. Whatever. The
suggestion remains the same: if you want a fire to die down, quit
fanning it.

--
Blue Moon