In article <32l9raF3km8vdU1@individual.net>, totfit@NOSPAMcomcast.net
says...
> Valium is not an Opiate.

NO shit, Sherlock. When did I say that it was?


> There are drugs out to help with cravings though I
> can't vouch personally for whether they work effectively or not. Naltroxene
> is the first that comes to mind which was originally used to block the
> effects of Opiates, but was found effective at reducing cravings for
> alcohol. I have corresponded with some that are taking it and have found it
> effective, but I would be afraid I would want to "test" it and see if it
> blocks the alcohol buzz. :-) There are some others that are close to being
> released. Google can find others.

Nothing reduces cravings for alcohol except for alcohol.
Do you think that there can be a drug that can make
you not want to do something that you want to do? If
that were so, they'd invent a drug that would make
you want to walk across an 8 lane highway. Drugs
aren't the answer to alcoholism: cept for temporary
fixes like drugs that calm the shakes or cause a poisonous
reaction when you drink alcohol. These drugs that reduce
"cravings" for opiates, all that they do is displace the
opiates in the system so that they have no effect from
the opiates. The only thing that really works is will
power or fear of death.

--
"Laissez les bons temps rouler!" -"La Grenouille

"Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
news:32lnm3F3nehukU4@individual.net...
> In article <32l9raF3km8vdU1@individual.net>, totfit@NOSPAMcomcast.net
> says...
> > Valium is not an Opiate.
>
> NO shit, Sherlock. When did I say that it was?
>

It appears to me you did right here dumb ass:

In article <1103426347.596667.38060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups. com>,
SeppDietrich@comcast.net says...
> Any of the opiates work in stopping cravings.Vicodin,oxycontin,ect.
> will relax you and you won't even think about a drink.
> "Sepp"
>
>
nope,doesn't work. you could zong yourself on valium
and if you were still awake you'd be all, "wow! this
valium and jim beam should be an awesome fuckin buzz"
--
"Laissez les bons temps rouler!" -"La Grenouille

In article <32lufcF3najlvU1@individual.net>, totfit@NOSPAMcomcast.net
says...
>
> "Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
> news:32lnm3F3nehukU4@individual.net...
> > In article <32l9raF3km8vdU1@individual.net>, totfit@NOSPAMcomcast.net
> > says...
> > > Valium is not an Opiate.
> >
> > NO shit, Sherlock. When did I say that it was?
> >
>
> It appears to me you did right here dumb ass:
>
> In article <1103426347.596667.38060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups. com>,
> SeppDietrich@comcast.net says...
> > Any of the opiates work in stopping cravings.Vicodin,oxycontin,ect.
> > will relax you and you won't even think about a drink.
> > "Sepp"
> >
> >
> nope,doesn't work. you could zong yourself on valium
> and if you were still awake you'd be all, "wow! this
> valium and jim beam should be an awesome fuckin buzz"
>
Nope. Never said that Valium was an opiate you retarded
pile of shit! Let me explain for the mentally handicrapped:
"Nope OPIATES won't WORK for 'alcohol withdrawal" however,
you COULD ZONK yourself on VALIUM (not referring to a benzo
as an opiate and if you could stay awake thru it you'd STILL
prolly getting loaded on Jim Beam with said Valium. You have
a bad habit of taking everything out of context. Must be your
brain-stem damage you fruity little piss-head.
--
"Laissez les bons temps rouler!" -"La Grenouille

"Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
news:32m4mcF3mm1usU13@individual.net...
> In article <32lufcF3najlvU1@individual.net>, totfit@NOSPAMcomcast.net
> says...
> >
> > "Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
> > news:32lnm3F3nehukU4@individual.net...
> > > In article <32l9raF3km8vdU1@individual.net>, totfit@NOSPAMcomcast.net
> > > says...
> > > > Valium is not an Opiate.
> > >
> > > NO shit, Sherlock. When did I say that it was?
> > >
> >
> > It appears to me you did right here dumb ass:
> >
> > In article <1103426347.596667.38060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups. com>,
> > SeppDietrich@comcast.net says...
> > > Any of the opiates work in stopping cravings.Vicodin,oxycontin,ect.
> > > will relax you and you won't even think about a drink.
> > > "Sepp"
> > >
> > >
> > nope,doesn't work. you could zong yourself on valium
> > and if you were still awake you'd be all, "wow! this
> > valium and jim beam should be an awesome fuckin buzz"
> >
> Nope. Never said that Valium was an opiate you retarded
> pile of shit! Let me explain for the mentally handicrapped:
> "Nope OPIATES won't WORK for 'alcohol withdrawal" however,
> you COULD ZONK yourself on VALIUM (not referring to a benzo
> as an opiate and if you could stay awake thru it you'd STILL
> prolly getting loaded on Jim Beam with said Valium. You have
> a bad habit of taking everything out of context. Must be your
> brain-stem damage you fruity little piss-head.
> --
> "Laissez les bons temps rouler!" -"La Grenouille

Hey you miserable little pussy, I infect did take it in "context". That is
why I went back and quoted the context in my reply. You failed to leave the
context in the message when you spouted off to my original reply. As another
matter of fact Valium will relieve the physical cravings for alcohol and is
used as such. Maybe "you" would still want a bottle of Jim Beam, but you
need to use it as your experience and not apply it to others. Well, shit for
brains, I am done playing with you. Hope you can find someone else that will
play your silly games.

In article <32mgaqF3nejf7U1@individual.net>, totfit@NOSPAMcomcast.net
says...
>
> "Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
> news:32m4mcF3mm1usU13@individual.net...
> > In article <32lufcF3najlvU1@individual.net>, totfit@NOSPAMcomcast.net
> > says...
> > >
> > > "Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
> > > news:32lnm3F3nehukU4@individual.net...
> > > > In article <32l9raF3km8vdU1@individual.net>, totfit@NOSPAMcomcast.net
> > > > says...
> > > > > Valium is not an Opiate.
> > > >
> > > > NO shit, Sherlock. When did I say that it was?
> > > >
> > >
> > > It appears to me you did right here dumb ass:
> > >
> > > In article <1103426347.596667.38060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups. com>,
> > > SeppDietrich@comcast.net says...
> > > > Any of the opiates work in stopping cravings.Vicodin,oxycontin,ect.
> > > > will relax you and you won't even think about a drink.
> > > > "Sepp"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > nope,doesn't work. you could zong yourself on valium
> > > and if you were still awake you'd be all, "wow! this
> > > valium and jim beam should be an awesome fuckin buzz"
> > >
> > Nope. Never said that Valium was an opiate you retarded
> > pile of shit! Let me explain for the mentally handicrapped:
> > "Nope OPIATES won't WORK for 'alcohol withdrawal" however,
> > you COULD ZONK yourself on VALIUM (not referring to a benzo
> > as an opiate and if you could stay awake thru it you'd STILL
> > prolly getting loaded on Jim Beam with said Valium. You have
> > a bad habit of taking everything out of context. Must be your
> > brain-stem damage you fruity little piss-head.
> > --
> > "Laissez les bons temps rouler!" -"La Grenouille
>
> Hey you miserable little pussy, I infect did take it in "context". That is
> why I went back and quoted the context in my reply. You failed to leave the
> context in the message when you spouted off to my original reply. As another
> matter of fact Valium will relieve the physical cravings for alcohol and is
> used as such. Maybe "you" would still want a bottle of Jim Beam, but you
> need to use it as your experience and not apply it to others. Well, shit for
> brains, I am done playing with you. Hope you can find someone else that will
> play your silly games.
>
>
>
Never did I say that Valium was an opiate. Show me where I did,
you fucking little pencil-neck prick! Quite obliviously you were
deprived of oxygen at birth, was poorly educated or just some
asshole playing stupid. I figure that you're prolly all of the
above. Go back grade-school you 3rd grade drop-out. Or better
yet, go polish off some vodka and kill those last 150 genetically
deficient brain-cells before you knock-up the first fat bitch
who'd take your flopped clock. Eat shit and die.
--
"Laissez les bons temps rouler!" -"La Grenouille

Back by popular demand, 'steal this book' --over
1,500 hits when I had it in my sig back in 2001
or whenever that was.
http://www.geocities.com/woogawooga99/steal.html

aaah, wonderful entertainment, carry on by all means!
Scott W <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
news:32mn22F3plu6mU1@individual.net...
> In article <32mgaqF3nejf7U1@individual.net>, totfit@NOSPAMcomcast.net
> says...
> >
> > "Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
> > news:32m4mcF3mm1usU13@individual.net...
> > > In article <32lufcF3najlvU1@individual.net>, totfit@NOSPAMcomcast.net
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > "Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
> > > > news:32lnm3F3nehukU4@individual.net...
> > > > > In article <32l9raF3km8vdU1@individual.net>,
totfit@NOSPAMcomcast.net
> > > > > says...
> > > > > > Valium is not an Opiate.
> > > > >
> > > > > NO shit, Sherlock. When did I say that it was?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > It appears to me you did right here dumb ass:
> > > >
> > > > In article <1103426347.596667.38060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups. com>,
> > > > SeppDietrich@comcast.net says...
> > > > > Any of the opiates work in stopping
cravings.Vicodin,oxycontin,ect.
> > > > > will relax you and you won't even think about a drink.
> > > > > "Sepp"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > nope,doesn't work. you could zong yourself on valium
> > > > and if you were still awake you'd be all, "wow! this
> > > > valium and jim beam should be an awesome fuckin buzz"
> > > >
> > > Nope. Never said that Valium was an opiate you retarded
> > > pile of shit! Let me explain for the mentally handicrapped:
> > > "Nope OPIATES won't WORK for 'alcohol withdrawal" however,
> > > you COULD ZONK yourself on VALIUM (not referring to a benzo
> > > as an opiate and if you could stay awake thru it you'd STILL
> > > prolly getting loaded on Jim Beam with said Valium. You have
> > > a bad habit of taking everything out of context. Must be your
> > > brain-stem damage you fruity little piss-head.
> > > --
> > > "Laissez les bons temps rouler!" -"La Grenouille
> >
> > Hey you miserable little pussy, I infect did take it in "context". That
is
> > why I went back and quoted the context in my reply. You failed to leave
the
> > context in the message when you spouted off to my original reply. As
another
> > matter of fact Valium will relieve the physical cravings for alcohol
and is
> > used as such. Maybe "you" would still want a bottle of Jim Beam, but you
> > need to use it as your experience and not apply it to others. Well, shit
for
> > brains, I am done playing with you. Hope you can find someone else that
will
> > play your silly games.
> >
> >
> >
> Never did I say that Valium was an opiate. Show me where I did,
> you fucking little pencil-neck prick! Quite obliviously you were
> deprived of oxygen at birth, was poorly educated or just some
> asshole playing stupid. I figure that you're prolly all of the
> above. Go back grade-school you 3rd grade drop-out. Or better
> yet, go polish off some vodka and kill those last 150 genetically
> deficient brain-cells before you knock-up the first fat bitch
> who'd take your flopped clock. Eat shit and die.
> --
> "Laissez les bons temps rouler!" -"La Grenouille
>
> Back by popular demand, 'steal this book' --over
> 1,500 hits when I had it in my sig back in 2001
> or whenever that was.
> http://www.geocities.com/woogawooga99/steal.html

in article cq6c01$n0e$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk, gary at
gary@marsden74.fsnet.co.uk wrote on 12/20/04 5:09 AM:

> aaah, wonderful entertainment, carry on by all means!


Greg and Scott are both sock puppets of each other, right? I mean, I would
think there's a way to tell, but I'm not proficient enough to do it, but it
all strikes me as a 15 year old talking to himself.

Ev

"gary" <gary@marsden74.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cpuedm$qbg$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hi
> I am taking efexor for anxiety & depression, however, i am feeling
> unable to stop my drinking in the evenings.
> I know that my drinking is preventing me from getting well, but i get
a
> craving & end up drinking too much.
> I wish i could just have 1 or 2 & stop.
>
> Is valium a way to control alcohol cravings & is there a drug to
reduce my
> cravings!

BONGS.

But you may as get used to it because if you did bongs where I live you
get guns pointed at your head.

Yahoo 22 christian jew cops whacked.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/22/in.../22cnd-iraq.ht
ml

That is 22 less tax sucking christian jew cops who would rather destroy
me than help me to achieve freedom.

I feel freer! The more dead military members who would prevent my
freedom the safer I feel.

Exterminate the christian jew cop military.



>
> Thanks
>
> Gary
>
>

In article <cpuedm$qbg$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>,
gary@marsden74.fsnet.co.uk says...
> Hi
> I am taking efexor for anxiety & depression, however, i am feeling
> unable to stop my drinking in the evenings.
> I know that my drinking is preventing me from getting well, but i get a
> craving & end up drinking too much.
> I wish i could just have 1 or 2 & stop.
>
> Is valium a way to control alcohol cravings & is there a drug to reduce my
> cravings!
>
Valium is great for calming you down, ridding you of the
shakes and controlling your aggression --and agression
is a big problem for most of us when we withdrawal from
alcohol -- but, NOTHING will make the cravings go away
EXCEPT for having the control to Take Your Mind off of
the boozee -- perish the thought. Keep busy. Jack off.
Rent DVD's. Read books. Watch Dr Phil. Remember, alcoholism
isn't only a physical addiction --physical addictions are
over in a matter of a few days--, it's a mental obsession.
The best thing you can do is 'take your mind off of it'.
And see, here we are --all of us on this newsgroup-- and
some of us are drinking and some of us aren't but the
fact is,we're all Obsessed with the thought of drinking --
this can possibly be very detrimental because the human
mind tends to magnetize you to whatever your obsession
happens to be. Suicide bombers are conditioned 24/7 from
a very young age to hate the Jews and and kill them even
at the expense of their own lives --which prolly aren't
too great anyway, because of the Jews. What happens?
KABOOM! Maybe that wasn't such a great analogy but if you
don't like it, shove it up yer arse!

--
"Laissez les bons temps rouler!" -"La Grenouille

Back by popular demand, 'steal this book' --over
1,500 hits when I had it in my sig back in 2001
or whenever that was.
http://www.geocities.com/woogawooga99/steal.html

Recently effexor has been one of several drugs cited with potential health
consequences, if you are taking, it would be good idea to look over it's
potential side effects and to talk to your doctor. As per valium for use
with getting away from alcohol, it is used for that sometime, particularly
if someone is getting the proverbial dts from alcohol withdrawl. But,
alcoholics can be predisposed to potential valium abuse and need to be
careful and monitored. A warning too, valium by itself proply never has
killed anyone, but mix it with alcohol and it can be a killer.
davon96720

"Solstice Ninja Tree" <huptwo@three.for> wrote in message
news:cqdsdn02nli@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> "gary" <gary@marsden74.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:cpuedm$qbg$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Hi
>> I am taking efexor for anxiety & depression, however, i am feeling
>> unable to stop my drinking in the evenings.
>> I know that my drinking is preventing me from getting well, but i get
> a
>> craving & end up drinking too much.
>> I wish i could just have 1 or 2 & stop.
>>
>> Is valium a way to control alcohol cravings & is there a drug to
> reduce my
>> cravings!
>
> BONGS.
>
> But you may as get used to it because if you did bongs where I live you
> get guns pointed at your head.
>
> Yahoo 22 christian jew cops whacked.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/22/in.../22cnd-iraq.ht
> ml
>
> That is 22 less tax sucking christian jew cops who would rather destroy
> me than help me to achieve freedom.
>
> I feel freer! The more dead military members who would prevent my
> freedom the safer I feel.
>
> Exterminate the christian jew cop military.
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>
>