Is there anyway to go thru the AA program
and work the steps without having to attend
FTF meetings? I suffer from agoraphobia and
that makes it very difficult to get anything
out of the group meetings. In fact, probably
the only way I could get thru an AA meeting
would be if I was intoxicated or sedated on
benzos. Any ideas?
--
"I hate bears. Anyhow, the more the merrier!" -B Dylan

"Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
news:31v8pcF3f4c44U5@individual.net...
> Is there anyway to go thru the AA program
> and work the steps without having to attend
> FTF meetings? I suffer from agoraphobia and
> that makes it very difficult to get anything
> out of the group meetings. In fact, probably
> the only way I could get thru an AA meeting
> would be if I was intoxicated or sedated on
> benzos. Any ideas?



Which of the 12 steps even mentions AA meetings?
http://anonpress.org/bb/Page_59.htm



Bob.
"If you think you want to change, you'll have to change your
thinking."

Scott, same problem here. It's been five months. Going to meetings
literally hurt. I am so anxiety ridden and freaked out that i don't
focus or can't focus.

I know they have online AAS meetings but I haven't searched them out.

As big as the agoraphobie problem is, the God problem is bigger.

you can email me if you want, I am sober.

"Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
news:31v8pcF3f4c44U5@individual.net...
> Is there anyway to go thru the AA program
> and work the steps without having to attend
> FTF meetings? I suffer from agoraphobia and
> that makes it very difficult to get anything
> out of the group meetings. In fact, probably
> the only way I could get thru an AA meeting
> would be if I was intoxicated or sedated on
> benzos. Any ideas?
> --
> "I hate bears. Anyhow, the more the merrier!" -B Dylan

The experts are con artists.

Main Entry: ag·o·ra·pho·bia
Pronunciation: "ag(-&)-r&-'fO-bE-&
Function: noun
: abnormal fear of being helpless in a situation from which escape may
be difficult or embarrassing that is characterized initially often by
panic or anticipatory anxiety and finally by avoidance of open or public
places


No matter how much of an asshole I may think you are. It is my belief
that anyone can change if they want to. The asshole that 12 stepped me
said he loved me but didn't like me.
I do not worry about what he said now because he was a deluded
psychopath that was a baptist preacher that liked to get falling down
drunk before his sermons and when he got sober he would hang around
newly sober ladies to eat them out.

I disagree with the death penalty except for those that want to take my
freedom away.
Alcoholism is a social disease and in the US being in public is deadly.
I have had hundreds of assaults directed at me. Some of these assaults
have resulted in injury to my body yet I cannot defend myself until we
have a civil war.

AA is propably the worst place to get sober for those who are not good
ole boys.

I am not sure you are abnormally afraid. You have every right to be
afraid and that is reality.
When you become honest with your self and see that you will know why the
word anomynous is used.
Alcoholism will kill you slowly and it is much more difficult to
continue drinking than to quit.
In the beginning you will suffer waves of self pity and resentments
which will pass with deep meditations to your own survival.
The ego must be smashed.
And like the doormouse said in Alice and Wonderland, "feed your head".

"Clinton Gandy" <crg903@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27331-41BAC97A-49@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net...

> you can email me if you want, I am sober.

Good for you. When did you stop drinking ?

JB

please DO give on-line AA a chance..............you are NOT the only
agoraphobic who uses this approach!

http://www.aa-intergroup.org/directories/email.html



"Clinton Gandy" <crg903@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27331-41BAC97A-49@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net...
: Scott, same problem here. It's been five months. Going to meetings
: literally hurt. I am so anxiety ridden and freaked out that i
don't
: focus or can't focus.
:
: I know they have online AAS meetings but I haven't searched them
out.
:
: As big as the agoraphobie problem is, the God problem is bigger.
:
: you can email me if you want, I am sober.
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:

" rosie readandpost" <readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eAEud.15187$NO5.2717@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> please DO give on-line AA a chance..............you are NOT the only
> agoraphobic who uses this approach!
>
> http://www.aa-intergroup.org/directories/email.html

Rosie has directed you to one type of on-line meeting which can be
accessed through AA Intergroup. At Intergroup's Home page you'll
discover links to AA groups which run e-mail meetings only: others
which run e-mail meetings plus chat rooms and discussion forums and
yet others which run discussion forums only. AA Intergroup's Home
page is:

www.aa-intergroup.org

JB

> "Clinton Gandy" <crg903@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:27331-41BAC97A-49@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net...

> : I know they have online AAS meetings but I haven't searched them
> out.

In article <31vmc4F3e2rh8U1@individual.net>,
robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au says...
> "Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
> news:31v8pcF3f4c44U5@individual.net...
> > Is there anyway to go thru the AA program
> > and work the steps without having to attend
> > FTF meetings? I suffer from agoraphobia and
> > that makes it very difficult to get anything
> > out of the group meetings. In fact, probably
> > the only way I could get thru an AA meeting
> > would be if I was intoxicated or sedated on
> > benzos. Any ideas?
>
>
>
> Which of the 12 steps even mentions AA meetings?
> http://anonpress.org/bb/Page_59.htm
>
>
>
> Bob.
> "If you think you want to change, you'll have to change your
> thinking."
>
>
>
I don't know. That's why I was asking the AA Experts!
--
"I hate bears. Anyhow, the more the merrier!" -B Dylan

In article <27331-41BAC97A-49@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net>, crg903
@webtv.net says...
> Scott, same problem here. It's been five months. Going to meetings
> literally hurt. I am so anxiety ridden and freaked out that i don't
> focus or can't focus.
>
> I know they have online AAS meetings but I haven't searched them out.
>
> As big as the agoraphobie problem is, the God problem is bigger.
>
> you can email me if you want, I am sober.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Alright I will,then.
--
"I hate bears. Anyhow, the more the merrier!" -B Dylan

In article <cpepok012id@enews4.newsguy.com>, USisEvil@vooodoo.diz
says...
>
> "Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
> news:31v8pcF3f4c44U5@individual.net...
> > Is there anyway to go thru the AA program
> > and work the steps without having to attend
> > FTF meetings? I suffer from agoraphobia and
> > that makes it very difficult to get anything
> > out of the group meetings. In fact, probably
> > the only way I could get thru an AA meeting
> > would be if I was intoxicated or sedated on
> > benzos. Any ideas?
> > --
> > "I hate bears. Anyhow, the more the merrier!" -B Dylan
>
> The experts are con artists.
>
> Main Entry: ag·o·ra·pho·bia
> Pronunciation: "ag(-&)-r&-'fO-bE-&
> Function: noun
> : abnormal fear of being helpless in a situation from which escape may
> be difficult or embarrassing that is characterized initially often by
> panic or anticipatory anxiety and finally by avoidance of open or public
> places
>
>
> No matter how much of an asshole I may think you are. It is my belief
> that anyone can change if they want to. The asshole that 12 stepped me
> said he loved me but didn't like me.
> I do not worry about what he said now because he was a deluded
> psychopath that was a baptist preacher that liked to get falling down
> drunk before his sermons and when he got sober he would hang around
> newly sober ladies to eat them out.
>
> I disagree with the death penalty except for those that want to take my
> freedom away.
> Alcoholism is a social disease and in the US being in public is deadly.
> I have had hundreds of assaults directed at me. Some of these assaults
> have resulted in injury to my body yet I cannot defend myself until we
> have a civil war.
>
> AA is propably the worst place to get sober for those who are not good
> ole boys.
>
> I am not sure you are abnormally afraid. You have every right to be
> afraid and that is reality.
> When you become honest with your self and see that you will know why the
> word anomynous is used.
> Alcoholism will kill you slowly and it is much more difficult to
> continue drinking than to quit.
> In the beginning you will suffer waves of self pity and resentments
> which will pass with deep meditations to your own survival.
> The ego must be smashed.
> And like the doormouse said in Alice and Wonderland, "feed your head".
>
After I was poisoned with experimental doses of LSD and other
unknown drugs by the US Army, my ego became fractured and
destroyed anyway. And I think that many of us who've gone
thru that type of brainwashing have also developed these
abnormal panic disorders. I feel no self-pity or resentments.


--
"I hate bears. Anyhow, the more the merrier!" -B Dylan