"Trenchcat" <freedom@world.new> wrote in message
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>
> "Gail" <love-rules@myhouse.com> wrote in message
> news:dtn3s0lo9rv6rci4iogh8oomj3i9bq3qe3@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:46:33 -0500, "Dan McGown"
>> <dmcgown@adelphia.net> wrote:
>>
>> >"Nat" <n515hoop@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> >news:l8udneFZVNI6UlzcRVn-rQ@centurytel.net...
>> >> Good grief! ANOTHER juvenile trying to talk grownup.
>> >
>> > Yeah, I've been hanging back, waiting to see if they change the
> group
>> >name to "alt.homophobic.juvenile.bigot"
>> > They seem to arrive in clusters.
>> > The real problem is that sometimes it chases away the people who
> came
>> >here to discuss on-topic matters. It's like the economic principle
> of bad
>> >money driving out the good.
>> > I guess that merely dealing with alcohol addiction isn't enough
> to
>> >occupy the attention of the sophomore mind since at that intellectual
> age
>> >(it's not a matter of mere calendar years) people seem to believe
> that they
>> >understand everything.
>> > -- or perhaps, if they aren't dealing with their alcohol
> addiction, it
>> >just makes them feel better to kick someone that they perceive as
> being
>> >down.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Hi Dan. We do get some really sick jerks in here sometimes. If I open
>> a post and it has queer, faggot, slut, kill the jews etc. etc. I try
>> not to open and read their trash again. Best thing to do is not even
>> reply to their crap. That is what they want. I'll be damned if I let
>> some sick kid or sick adult ruin my day with their, not just juvenile,
>> but just plain ignorance and uneducated actions. I guess we can pray
>> that God restores them to sanity one day. It will definately be
>> their own fault and misfortune if He doesn't!
>> What I think is so funny is that they change their e-mail address so
>> that they aren't blocked and actually think people read their trash
>> again. We can block em and if they appear, just block the crap out of
>> em again. I do. I might respond to one of their post but, never go
>> back and read their reply..LOL Most of the time I try not to feed the
>> trolls.
>
>
> Who you calling a troll, jew nigger bitch?
>
>> Take care,
>> Gail
>
>

LOL! I am not jewish nor am I black. You were wrong on both counts Colon.
I am of Methodist faith and Democrat. I don't know what you have against
that? I am sure you will find something. I don't go to AA, I don't attend
church and I didn't vote for Bush but, I have no wish to kill the people
that do or did, reguardless of their ethnicity, religion or politcal
choice. I could ring your neck, though... That's a southern expression.
Dag on, I fed a troll!
See ya,
Gail

In article <0fVwd.11777$Z27.11053@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
BobbyL2000spam@bellsouth.net says...
>
> "Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
> news:32hst5F3n7r33U3@individual.net...
> > In article <BJNwd.16$e33.0@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
> > BobbyL2000spam@bellsouth.net says...
> > >
> > > "Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
> > > news:320qngF3flo1tU4@individual.net...
> > > > In article <31vmc4F3e2rh8U1@individual.net>,
> > > > robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au says...
> > > > > "Scott W" <hans_spoon@yahoo.de> wrote in message
> > > > > news:31v8pcF3f4c44U5@individual.net...
> > > > > > Is there anyway to go thru the AA program
> > > > > > and work the steps without having to attend
> > > > > > FTF meetings? I suffer from agoraphobia and
> > > > > > that makes it very difficult to get anything
> > > > > > out of the group meetings. In fact, probably
> > > > > > the only way I could get thru an AA meeting
> > > > > > would be if I was intoxicated or sedated on
> > > > > > benzos. Any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Which of the 12 steps even mentions AA meetings?
> > > > > http://anonpress.org/bb/Page_59.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob.
> > > > > "If you think you want to change, you'll have to change your
> > > > > thinking."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I don't know. That's why I was asking the AA Experts!
> > > > --
> > > > "I hate bears. Anyhow, the more the merrier!" -B Dylan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > I didn't get sober at meetings. I don't think I've ever worked a step
> at
> > > a meeting (at least not consciously). I got sober by not drinking. I
> > > learned it was easier to keep not drinking as I worked through the
> steps --
> > > with another alcoholic who had already worked through them himself.
> > > The advantage of meetings is that it is one place where you usually
> find a
> > > bunch of sober alcoholics. Let's face it -- we probably both know where
> to
> > > find a bunch of drunk alcoholics.
> > > Meetings are where I found sober alcoholics who had learned how to
> live
> > > more or less happily without alcohol. Of course I also found a bunch of
> > > alcoholics who had yet to learn how to live happily that way. No great
> > > gurus here.... just a bunch of initially nameless alcoholics trying to
> help
> > > each other, and some of us are still sicker than others.
> > > There are Central Offices in more countries than I can name -- call
> the
> > > nearest and explain your situation. If you wish, perhaps they can
> arrange
> > > to have a couple of alcoholics come to you or meet you at a location
> more in
> > > line with your situation. I went to meetings because that was what I
> > > needed, but there is no magic formula that says you have to attend
> meetings.
> > > Don't feel like the lone ranger on this one... I have come to learn
> that
> > > many of us have many more problems other than just alcoholism.
> > > You might want to find a couple of alcoholics who are working the
> program
> > > and talk about the program. The more I think about your question, the
> more I
> > > would suggest that all you need is a Big Book, a little guidance, and a
> > > little willingness -- well, and a desire to stop drinking.
> > > I still go to meetings regularly, because I like being around sober
> > > alcoholics who understand what I'm feeling. That said, the bulk of
> > > "practicing these principals" in the rest of my life is done outside
> > > meetings -- with other folks who have recovered from this "seemingly
> > > hopeless state of mind and body."
> > > You might want to take some time and read through "The Doctor's
> Opinion" a
> > > few times and decide whether or not you are an alcoholic.
> > >
> > > Just a thought or two.
> > >
> > > Bobby L
> > >
> > I've been working with an addiction specialist in Wales
> > and he's really helped me out tremendously. Alcoholism
> > is a very simple problem -- it's the aftermath, that's
> > when the complexity and self-deception begins. I chose
> > to drink everytime I slammed down the bottle because
> > my father and others ensiled in my mind that whenever
> > there's a slight, easy to fix problem, the only solution
> > is to hit the bottle. And I've always known better than
> > that but it's always been an excuse to have some "fun"
> > ; a "giggle in the bottle" and it always ends in regret
> > and failure -- at least 80% of the time, anyway.
> >
> > --
> > "Laissez les bons temps rouler!" -"La Grenouille
>
> If you don't already have these:
>
> North East Wales
> Telephone 01244 659759
> 8.00am to 9pm
> Remote call forwarding service
>
> North West Wales
> Telephone 01743 242392
> 24 Hour Remote call forwarding service
>
> South West Wales
> Telephone 01792 301907
> 24 Hour
>
> Bobby L
>
>
>
will check it out
--
"Laissez les bons temps rouler!" -"La Grenouille

Sure: go to http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org/
and browse around. there a long list of online AA groups.

Also: AA has the "Loner's" Program which is to help get the AA message to
those who cannot, for whatever reason, attend F2F meetings.

I wrote this and more to you earlier, suggesting that you email me for more
info. You didn't.

Nat H.
Oxford, Arkansas


> Is there anyway to go thru the AA program
> and work the steps without having to attend
> FTF meetings? I suffer from agoraphobia and
> that makes it very difficult to get anything
> out of the group meetings. In fact, probably
> the only way I could get thru an AA meeting
> would be if I was intoxicated or sedated on
> benzos. Any ideas?