fuck off and die.
"King MacEarca" <feckinde@picts.wow> wrote in message
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>
> "Alex C//415" <alexcuster@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:jKopd.404$u81.35@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink .net...
>> "I can only hope for a civil war so I could legally kill your
> goddamned
>> redneck ass."
>>
>> I'm better armed, in great shape, smarter, quicker, and craftier.
> Think
>> I'll have another beer.........
>
>
>
> suck it up quiver!
>
>
>
>
>

Incomprehensible idiocy and anger, combined with a furious disdain for
reality. Great trolling, net full.

Two beers left.

ColoNel polyPs wrote:
|| "freeespeech" <youcanttshutmeup@talks.com> wrote in message
|| news:CTepd.206864$9b.152949@edtnps84...
||| Alex C//415 wrote:
||||| Never, ever, have I had the opportunity to read such a
||||| clear-minded, lucid post. Years of sobriety for this guy have
||||| indeed produced a person capable of grasping not only the bigger
||||| issues, but also has given him the ablility to communicate
||||| concisely, eloquently, and understandably.
|||
||| My thoughts exactly!
||
|| I can only hope for a civil war so I could legally kill your
|| goddamned redneck ass.

Not WHEN I see you first.

||
|| I'm still trying to get this goddamned microchip out of my back that
|| Richard Nixon, George Bush and George Bush stuck there when they
|| kidnapped, drugged and interogated me in 1982.

"freeespeech" <youcanttshutmeup@talks.com> wrote in message
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> ColoNel polyPs wrote:
> || "freeespeech" <youcanttshutmeup@talks.com> wrote in message
> || news:CTepd.206864$9b.152949@edtnps84...
> ||| Alex C//415 wrote:
> ||||| Never, ever, have I had the opportunity to read such a
> ||||| clear-minded, lucid post. Years of sobriety for this guy have
> ||||| indeed produced a person capable of grasping not only the bigger
> ||||| issues, but also has given him the ablility to communicate
> ||||| concisely, eloquently, and understandably.
> |||
> ||| My thoughts exactly!
> ||
> || I can only hope for a civil war so I could legally kill your
> || goddamned redneck ass.
>
> Not WHEN I see you first.
>

Can you see me now?

Fucking dipshit.

Exterminate the christian government.

I don't understand alcoholism. Probably because I haven't had to deal with
it before in my life. Until about 2 years ago when I started dated my
boyfriend, Jeff. I didn't know he was an alcholic until about 2 months
into our relationship. I mean, I kind of noticed he drank a lot but I
didn't think anything of it because I have never been around an alocholic.
But I started to notice he was drinking like every night, and he could
drink a 12 pack all by himself. I started to worry, because that didn't
seem normal. I have tried to talk to him about it hundreds of times but
he doesn't seem to want to quit. He always has some excuse, like "it's my
day off", but what does that matter if you're drinking every other day of
the week. We have been living together since July '04, and living w/ him
I see more of it then I ever did. We have so many fights over it and I
was going to leave him once and he said that if it means never taking
another drink for me not to leave then he will do that. But he went right
back to the alcohol a few days later. He also has a problem with
marijuana, but that's a whole different story. I have said to him that it
was like he's trying to avoid reality. And he said "yeah, basically, cus
reality sucks" But it's like, as much as reality sucks, it's life and he's
got to face it, just like everyone else. It just hurts me to see how he
abuses alcohol. He has so much potential but he never wants to do
anything because the alcohol and drugs are keeping him from it. And it
doesn't help that all of his friends do the same thing. I have tried
every approach with him, but nothing gets through to him. It's like
alcohol and weed is his #1 priority. I remember one time a long time ago
he had $20 left from his paycheck, and he's like "I need to budget this"
and he goes out and buys a 30 pack of beer that was about $16. How is
that budgeting?? I just don't get it. Now it's like I get so mad when he
drinks, and we are always fighting. I can't deal with him being an
alcoholic. He needs to get help, but he says he's not ready to. And
whenever I say anything about it, he says its his life. Yes, it is his
life but I am in it and if we're going to be together I don't want him to
die in 5 years. It runs in his family, but they have all been sober for
so long. I just think he needs to get his life together and be
responsible. I have gone to AA meetings with him and I hear people say
that they've been sober for so many years, and I am so happy for them. I
don't see why he can't do it. I guess I just don't see how alcohol can
have that much control over someone. I'm not putting down the people that
do have that problem, I just really don't understand it. If anyone can
help me understand it, that would be great. And if anyone has any advice
on how to deal with an alcoholic, I would greatly appreciate it. Because
I am not willing to give up on him, cus he is a really great guy. Thanks!

"SweetAngel" <grneyedshorty428@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I don't understand alcoholism. Probably because I haven't had to deal
with
> it before in my life. Until about 2 years ago when I started dated my
> boyfriend, Jeff. I didn't know he was an alcholic until about 2 months
> into our relationship. I mean, I kind of noticed he drank a lot but I
> didn't think anything of it because I have never been around an alocholic.
> But I started to notice he was drinking like every night, and he could
> drink a 12 pack all by himself. I started to worry, because that didn't
> seem normal. I have tried to talk to him about it hundreds of times but
> he doesn't seem to want to quit. He always has some excuse, like "it's my
> day off", but what does that matter if you're drinking every other day of
> the week. We have been living together since July '04, and living w/ him
> I see more of it then I ever did. We have so many fights over it and I
> was going to leave him once and he said that if it means never taking
> another drink for me not to leave then he will do that. But he went right
> back to the alcohol a few days later. He also has a problem with
> marijuana, but that's a whole different story. I have said to him that it
> was like he's trying to avoid reality. And he said "yeah, basically, cus
> reality sucks" But it's like, as much as reality sucks, it's life and he's
> got to face it, just like everyone else. It just hurts me to see how he
> abuses alcohol. He has so much potential but he never wants to do
> anything because the alcohol and drugs are keeping him from it. And it
> doesn't help that all of his friends do the same thing. I have tried
> every approach with him, but nothing gets through to him. It's like
> alcohol and weed is his #1 priority. I remember one time a long time ago
> he had $20 left from his paycheck, and he's like "I need to budget this"
> and he goes out and buys a 30 pack of beer that was about $16. How is
> that budgeting?? I just don't get it. Now it's like I get so mad when he
> drinks, and we are always fighting. I can't deal with him being an
> alcoholic. He needs to get help, but he says he's not ready to. And
> whenever I say anything about it, he says its his life. Yes, it is his
> life but I am in it and if we're going to be together I don't want him to
> die in 5 years. It runs in his family, but they have all been sober for
> so long. I just think he needs to get his life together and be
> responsible. I have gone to AA meetings with him and I hear people say
> that they've been sober for so many years, and I am so happy for them. I
> don't see why he can't do it. I guess I just don't see how alcohol can
> have that much control over someone. I'm not putting down the people that
> do have that problem, I just really don't understand it. If anyone can
> help me understand it, that would be great. And if anyone has any advice
> on how to deal with an alcoholic, I would greatly appreciate it. Because
> I am not willing to give up on him, cus he is a really great guy. Thanks!
>

leave.


Bobby L

"SweetAngel" <grneyedshorty428@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I don't understand alcoholism.

It's an illness of the mind and the body. The alcoholic has a mind
that tricks them into believing that it's OK for them drink and when
they do, their body reacts abnormally to the alcohol they've consumed
and causes them to crave more of it, so they keep on drinking.

I have alcoholism. AA's teachings have helped me to understand my
illness and how it is possible to recover from it. If you are keen to
know more about alcoholism and how recovery from it can be achieved,
I suggest you have a look at our book Alcoholics Anonymous:

http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~clyde/Bill...roduction.html

You might also gain knowledge and further benefits from going along to
Al-Anon meetings.

Best wishes

JB

And if anyone has any advice
> > on how to deal with an alcoholic, I would greatly appreciate it.
Because
> > I am not willing to give up on him, cus he is a really great guy.
Thanks!
> >
>
> leave.
>
>
> Bobby L
>
>
>
I agree with leaving. Would definitely be the best thing for you and who
knows, might be a wakeup call for you.

Gregg

if you really do want to help save your relationship, you could
start with understanding yourself and your motivations!
consider joining an ALANON group in your area, i have seen so much
good recovery come out of that 12 step group.

i am married (25+yrs) to a great guy, who loves me very much, and
for the first 3yrs of our marriage, i was an out of control drunk!
today, i remain grateful for his early help in my recovery.
rosie

"SweetAngel" <grneyedshorty428@aol.com> wrote in message
news:77b4399c90410a283eab3053a42ae252@localhost.ta lkaboutrecovery.com...
: I don't understand alcoholism. Probably because I haven't had to
deal with
: it before in my life. Until about 2 years ago when I started
dated my
: boyfriend, Jeff. I didn't know he was an alcholic until about 2
months
: into our relationship. I mean, I kind of noticed he drank a lot
but I
: didn't think anything of it because I have never been around an
alocholic.
: But I started to notice he was drinking like every night, and he
could
: drink a 12 pack all by himself. I started to worry, because that
didn't
: seem normal. I have tried to talk to him about it hundreds of
times but
: he doesn't seem to want to quit. He always has some excuse, like
"it's my
: day off", but what does that matter if you're drinking every other
day of
: the week. We have been living together since July '04, and living
w/ him
: I see more of it then I ever did. We have so many fights over it
and I
: was going to leave him once and he said that if it means never
taking
: another drink for me not to leave then he will do that. But he
went right
: back to the alcohol a few days later. He also has a problem with
: marijuana, but that's a whole different story. I have said to him
that it
: was like he's trying to avoid reality. And he said "yeah,
basically, cus
: reality sucks" But it's like, as much as reality sucks, it's life
and he's
: got to face it, just like everyone else. It just hurts me to see
how he
: abuses alcohol. He has so much potential but he never wants to do
: anything because the alcohol and drugs are keeping him from it.
And it
: doesn't help that all of his friends do the same thing. I have
tried
: every approach with him, but nothing gets through to him. It's
like
: alcohol and weed is his #1 priority. I remember one time a long
time ago
: he had $20 left from his paycheck, and he's like "I need to budget
this"
: and he goes out and buys a 30 pack of beer that was about $16.
How is
: that budgeting?? I just don't get it. Now it's like I get so mad
when he
: drinks, and we are always fighting. I can't deal with him being
an
: alcoholic. He needs to get help, but he says he's not ready to.
And
: whenever I say anything about it, he says its his life. Yes, it
is his
: life but I am in it and if we're going to be together I don't want
him to
: die in 5 years. It runs in his family, but they have all been
sober for
: so long. I just think he needs to get his life together and be
: responsible. I have gone to AA meetings with him and I hear
people say
: that they've been sober for so many years, and I am so happy for
them. I
: don't see why he can't do it. I guess I just don't see how
alcohol can
: have that much control over someone. I'm not putting down the
people that
: do have that problem, I just really don't understand it. If
anyone can
: help me understand it, that would be great. And if anyone has any
advice
: on how to deal with an alcoholic, I would greatly appreciate it.
Because
: I am not willing to give up on him, cus he is a really great guy.
Thanks!
:

I really don't think that leaving him will make anything better. We love
each other, and he might get worse if I do leave him. Just because he has
an alcohol problem isn't a reason to leave. What he needs is for me to
support him through it.