Hello. I think I posted here before in the past (my memory is not the best,
you understand), and here I am again. Every day I wake up in the middle of
the night, feeling sick, telling myself I have to stop, hating drinking.
Every morning, I say I am quitting. Every night I say I am only going to
have 2, which turns into 5 or 7, which makes me feel good, and numb. Every
night, I love drinking. I feel like I cannot stop until I have had enough.
I quit for 2 years about 3 years ago, I think, and for some stupid reason I
started again (I thought I could have a drink with dinner, etc....you know
the story) I am terrified that I am going to lose my job, my apartment. I
have been to AA before, maybe 4 meetings, but didn't continue, and was able
to quit on my own. I work for the government, and we have an employee
assistance plan. Should I use it? Thank you for any help.

"coyote" <coyote2004@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:yvidnfcOJ6dvFuncRVn-gw@rogers.com...
> Hello. I think I posted here before in the past (my memory is not the
> best,
> you understand), and here I am again. Every day I wake up in the middle
> of
> the night, feeling sick, telling myself I have to stop, hating drinking.
> Every morning, I say I am quitting. Every night I say I am only going to
> have 2, which turns into 5 or 7, which makes me feel good, and numb.
> Every
> night, I love drinking. I feel like I cannot stop until I have had
> enough.
> I quit for 2 years about 3 years ago, I think, and for some stupid reason
> I
> started again (I thought I could have a drink with dinner, etc....you know
> the story) I am terrified that I am going to lose my job, my apartment.
> I
> have been to AA before, maybe 4 meetings, but didn't continue, and was
> able
> to quit on my own. I work for the government, and we have an employee
> assistance plan. Should I use it? Thank you for any help.

Answering the last part first, if you are at the point that you are
having to worry that you are going to lose your job, then it probably
wouldn't come as a surprise that you need help if you were to ask for it.
One key point on the extent to which you may jeopardize your position by
asking for help is the fact that there is an employee assistance program.
There must be a reason why it was put in place.
You sound like you already know parts of the answers to your questions.
For instance, you already know that your last bout of "not drinking" (I
don't know enough about you to comment on whether it had ripened into
sobriety) was lost to that traitorous thought that not drinking for a while
meant that you could risk the first one. Deep in your heart, you knew that
wasn't true -- the alcohol siren was just calling to you with the lie. Now
you have proved to yourself that it was a lie. You don't have to believe
us, but you do need to accept your own evidence.
I don't know if AA meetings will work for you. Bob says that they
didn't work for him and likes to quote statistics about failure rates. What
I do know is that they are part of what works for me and that I don't
personally know anybody who has acheived sobriety without meetings being a
part of it.
Look at it this way. Even if Bob is right and 19 out of 20 fail, that
means two important things. One is that one out of 20 chose to succeed.
The other is that even if it were random, which it is not, one chance out of
20 is better than the zero chance that you have if you keep drinking.
The probability approached certainty that if you continue to drink you
will lose all of the things that are important to you.
We are only telling you what we have seen and what we did about it.
You have to decide if you want to save yourself badly enough to try what has
worked for us. The critical thing isn't that if you try the program that
you might fail. The critical thing is that you can succeed.
Please do it. Don't *try* it. Do it. It is working for Fred and it
is working for Steve and it is working for me. It can work for you if you
make it work.
Dan

In article <T6CdnRLsCsiEPuncRVn-oQ@adelphia.com>, dmcgown@adelphia.net
says...
>
> "coyote" <coyote2004@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:yvidnfcOJ6dvFuncRVn-gw@rogers.com...
> > Hello. I think I posted here before in the past (my memory is not the
> > best,
> > you understand), and here I am again. Every day I wake up in the middle
> > of
> > the night, feeling sick, telling myself I have to stop, hating drinking.
> > Every morning, I say I am quitting. Every night I say I am only going to
> > have 2, which turns into 5 or 7, which makes me feel good, and numb.
> > Every
> > night, I love drinking. I feel like I cannot stop until I have had
> > enough.
> > I quit for 2 years about 3 years ago, I think, and for some stupid reason
> > I
> > started again (I thought I could have a drink with dinner, etc....you know
> > the story) I am terrified that I am going to lose my job, my apartment.
> > I
> > have been to AA before, maybe 4 meetings, but didn't continue, and was
> > able
> > to quit on my own. I work for the government, and we have an employee
> > assistance plan. Should I use it? Thank you for any help.
>
> Answering the last part first, if you are at the point that you are
> having to worry that you are going to lose your job, then it probably
> wouldn't come as a surprise that you need help if you were to ask for it.
> One key point on the extent to which you may jeopardize your position by
> asking for help is the fact that there is an employee assistance program.
> There must be a reason why it was put in place.
> You sound like you already know parts of the answers to your questions.
> For instance, you already know that your last bout of "not drinking" (I
> don't know enough about you to comment on whether it had ripened into
> sobriety) was lost to that traitorous thought that not drinking for a while
> meant that you could risk the first one. Deep in your heart, you knew that
> wasn't true -- the alcohol siren was just calling to you with the lie. Now
> you have proved to yourself that it was a lie. You don't have to believe
> us, but you do need to accept your own evidence.
> I don't know if AA meetings will work for you. Bob says that they
> didn't work for him and likes to quote statistics about failure rates. What
> I do know is that they are part of what works for me and that I don't
> personally know anybody who has acheived sobriety without meetings being a
> part of it.
> Look at it this way. Even if Bob is right and 19 out of 20 fail, that
> means two important things. One is that one out of 20 chose to succeed.
> The other is that even if it were random, which it is not, one chance out of
> 20 is better than the zero chance that you have if you keep drinking.
> The probability approached certainty that if you continue to drink you
> will lose all of the things that are important to you.
> We are only telling you what we have seen and what we did about it.
> You have to decide if you want to save yourself badly enough to try what has
> worked for us. The critical thing isn't that if you try the program that
> you might fail. The critical thing is that you can succeed.
> Please do it. Don't *try* it. Do it. It is working for Fred and it
> is working for Steve and it is working for me. It can work for you if you
> make it work.
> Dan
>
>
>
Bob! Bob! Bob! Bob is God!
--
"And I can hear the ukuleles playing
Down by the sea
She's gone with the hula hula boys
She don't care about me
They're signing,
"Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana.."

"Scott's Big Adventure" <bedtime@bonzoranch.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bde52f95735c95898c0df@news.alt.net...
> Bob! Bob! Bob! Bob is God!

Shhhhhhh
Don't tell anyone our secret, I've enough on my hands, with me!

Bob

In article <2tjoelF201v7nU1@uni-berlin.de>, robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au
says...
>
> "Scott's Big Adventure" <bedtime@bonzoranch.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1bde52f95735c95898c0df@news.alt.net...
> > Bob! Bob! Bob! Bob is God!
>
> Shhhhhhh
> Don't tell anyone our secret, I've enough on my hands, with me!
>
> Bob
>
>
>
Bob! It's you! Bob! Bob! Bob! Bob! Bob!
--
"And I can hear the ukuleles playing
Down by the sea
She's gone with the hula hula boys
She don't care about me
They're signing,
"Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana.."

"coyote" <coyote2004@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:yvidnfcOJ6dvFuncRVn-gw@rogers.com...
> Hello. I think I posted here before in the past (my memory is not the
best,
> you understand), and here I am again. Every day I wake up in the
middle of
> the night, feeling sick, telling myself I have to stop, hating
drinking.
> Every morning, I say I am quitting. Every night I say I am only going
to
> have 2, which turns into 5 or 7, which makes me feel good, and numb.
Every
> night, I love drinking. I feel like I cannot stop until I have had
enough.
> I quit for 2 years about 3 years ago, I think, and for some stupid
reason I
> started again (I thought I could have a drink with dinner, etc....you
know
> the story) I am terrified that I am going to lose my job, my
apartment. I
> have been to AA before, maybe 4 meetings, but didn't continue, and was
able
> to quit on my own. I work for the government, and we have an employee
> assistance plan. Should I use it? Thank you for any help.

No. You guys are sucking enough money out of my pocket.

Die asshole.

I can only hope for a civil war so I can legally kill tax sucking
maggots like you who make marijuana illegal so you can kill your self
with alcohol.

Exterminate the Jew Government

welcome coyote!
your story sounds so much like mine...........................that
every morning pledge, and that every afternoon broken
promise..................oh what awful memories you have evoked!

i started with AA and still use it to this day as a tool in my
recovery, and i highly recommend it.
do you have reason to believe that you will need more help than
that? if so, do contact your employee assistance program!

welcome, once again!
rosie












"coyote" <coyote2004@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:yvidnfcOJ6dvFuncRVn-gw@rogers.com...
: Hello. I think I posted here before in the past (my memory is not
the best,
: you understand), and here I am again. Every day I wake up in the
middle of
: the night, feeling sick, telling myself I have to stop, hating
drinking.
: Every morning, I say I am quitting. Every night I say I am only
going to
: have 2, which turns into 5 or 7, which makes me feel good, and
numb. Every
: night, I love drinking. I feel like I cannot stop until I have
had enough.
: I quit for 2 years about 3 years ago, I think, and for some stupid
reason I
: started again (I thought I could have a drink with dinner,
etc....you know
: the story) I am terrified that I am going to lose my job, my
apartment. I
: have been to AA before, maybe 4 meetings, but didn't continue, and
was able
: to quit on my own. I work for the government, and we have an
employee
: assistance plan. Should I use it? Thank you for any help.
:

"Dan McGown" <dmcgown@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:T6CdnRLsCsiEPuncRVn-oQ@adelphia.com...
:
:...................... Even if Bob is right and 19 out of 20 fail

he's not!

"Dan McGown" <dmcgown@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:T6CdnRLsCsiEPuncRVn-oQ@adelphia.com...
:.................... It can work for you if you
: make it work.
: Dan
:
:



AMEN!

" rosie readandpost" <readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com> wrote in
message news:Fv7dd.28564$PH6.28319@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> "Dan McGown" <dmcgown@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:T6CdnRLsCsiEPuncRVn-oQ@adelphia.com...
> :
> :...................... Even if Bob is right and 19 out of 20 fail
>
> he's not!
>

Rosie, you're so drug dependent you wouldn't know if Dan was up you!

Bob

(AA Around Australia. Spring Edition No 90. October 1994)
"A well conducted professional study," (page19) that showed "some 5%
of newcomers are still attending meetings after 12 months. This is a
truly terrible statistic". (page 2)

From: "rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>

Message-ID: < wkHa.22568$fe.447991@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>

>YES, whatever works!

>i belong to the "old school" of counting sobriety from the LAST

>drink/drug,



From: "rosie@readandpost" <readandpost@yahoo.com>

http://tinyurl.com/2w5cs

>i am thinking about asking my pdoc to increase my celexa to

>60mg..........anyone else in here have good results with that
>dosage?

>my 40mg seems to be "pooping out"...........



"rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in
message

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>

> i will never be recovered..............................