Alcoholism is not a disease - it is a behaviour problem with its roots
in childhood. If these issues from the past can be identified and
addressed, alcoholics can recover and be able to drink safely and
normally again.

Visit www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com

Kind regards,

alcocure

"Alcocure" <alcocure@aol.com> wrote in message
news:39516dcd.0409290356.559918d9@posting.google.c om...
> Alcoholism is not a disease - it is a behaviour problem with its roots
> in childhood. If these issues from the past can be identified and
> addressed, alcoholics can recover and be able to drink safely and
> normally again.

This appears to be a "feeder" for Stanton Peele's books and workshops which.

" . . . and when the Beatles tell you they've got words of love to sell you,
they mean exactly what they say." The Mamas and the Papas.

Dan

Interesting. It just goes to show that there's many different ways that one
can deal with one's alcoholism. I've tried to drink in moderation on many
occasions, but failed each time. The only solution for me total abstinance.
But, this isn't the end of the world. I lead my life like any other really,
apart from the fact I don't drink. When I'm not drinking, the drink doesn't
bother me too much. But, when I am drinking, it's all consuming and I can't
stop. For me, it's more of a physical dependance than an emotional
dependance.

--
J



Alcocure wrote:
> Alcoholism is not a disease - it is a behaviour problem with its roots
> in childhood. If these issues from the past can be identified and
> addressed, alcoholics can recover and be able to drink safely and
> normally again.
>
> Visit www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
>
> Kind regards,
>
> alcocure

> This appears to be a "feeder" for Stanton Peele's books and workshops
> which.

Sorry about the fragment. I started to say something snotty and then
changed my mind.

The problem with approaches like that one is that their "logic" flows
something like this: "Tim drank too much. Tim thought he was an alcoholic.
We showed Tim how to drink in moderation. Therefore, their are no
alcoholics."

Obviously, all that they have really proved is that Tim wasn't an alcoholic.

My grandfather was an alcoholic. My father was an alcoholic. Both of my
brothers are alcoholics. I don't know about the hypothetical "Tim" but I am
an alcoholic.

Some people who simply have been drinking too much may be able to learn to
drink in moderation, but I can't take the chance.

Thanks anyway, but no thanks.

>Therefore, their are no alcoholics.

SB "there"

Criminy, why can't I learn to proof read? Is it a perceptual problem, do
you think?

I know what you mean, I always tend to spell a word like "training" as
"traing". There's a long latin word to describe this type of behaviour, but
I forget what it is. Aside from that, it's the message rather than spelling
that's important

--
J



Dan McGown wrote:
>> Therefore, their are no alcoholics.
>
> SB "there"
>
> Criminy, why can't I learn to proof read? Is it a perceptual
> problem, do you think?

I can't imagine why I would ever want to drink "sociably" anyway. I never
have before. I always drank for the effect, not to be social. Even when the
desired effect was to be able to socialize, it never stopped there. I'm
quite content not drinking at all. Oh, and I can socialize now without
alcohol so it's a mute point anyway. I have no need for any treatment for my
alcoholism other than AA.

Vince

"Dan McGown" <dmcgown@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:QpKdnbvhENv3IcfcRVn-hA@adelphia.com...
>> This appears to be a "feeder" for Stanton Peele's books and workshops
>> which.
>
> Sorry about the fragment. I started to say something snotty and then
> changed my mind.
>
> The problem with approaches like that one is that their "logic" flows
> something like this: "Tim drank too much. Tim thought he was an
> alcoholic. We showed Tim how to drink in moderation. Therefore, their
> are no alcoholics."
>
> Obviously, all that they have really proved is that Tim wasn't an
> alcoholic.
>
> My grandfather was an alcoholic. My father was an alcoholic. Both of my
> brothers are alcoholics. I don't know about the hypothetical "Tim" but I
> am an alcoholic.
>
> Some people who simply have been drinking too much may be able to learn to
> drink in moderation, but I can't take the chance.
>
> Thanks anyway, but no thanks.
>

Just do bongs.


"J" <welshalky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:415ae489$1@news.greennet.net...
> Interesting. It just goes to show that there's many different ways
that one
> can deal with one's alcoholism. I've tried to drink in moderation on
many
> occasions, but failed each time. The only solution for me total
abstinance.
> But, this isn't the end of the world. I lead my life like any other
really,
> apart from the fact I don't drink. When I'm not drinking, the drink
doesn't
> bother me too much. But, when I am drinking, it's all consuming and I
can't
> stop. For me, it's more of a physical dependance than an emotional
> dependance.
>
> --
> J
>
>
>
> Alcocure wrote:
> > Alcoholism is not a disease - it is a behaviour problem with its
roots
> > in childhood. If these issues from the past can be identified and
> > addressed, alcoholics can recover and be able to drink safely and
> > normally again.
> >
> > Visit www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > alcocure
>
>

"Dan McGown" <dmcgown@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:QpKdnbvhENv3IcfcRVn-hA@adelphia.com...
> > This appears to be a "feeder" for Stanton Peele's books and
workshops
> > which.
>
> Sorry about the fragment. I started to say something snotty and then
> changed my mind.
>
> The problem with approaches like that one is that their "logic" flows
> something like this: "Tim drank too much. Tim thought he was an
alcoholic.
> We showed Tim how to drink in moderation. Therefore, their are no
> alcoholics."
>
> Obviously, all that they have really proved is that Tim wasn't an
alcoholic.
>
> My grandfather was an alcoholic. My father was an alcoholic. Both of
my
> brothers are alcoholics. I don't know about the hypothetical "Tim"
but I am
> an alcoholic.
>
> Some people who simply have been drinking too much may be able to
learn to
> drink in moderation, but I can't take the chance.
>
> Thanks anyway, but no thanks.


Do you pee in the shower?

Just do bongs.


>
>

"Dem Feckers" <repo@bli.can> wrote in message
news:cjep4k02gp7@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Just do bongs.

Dem <aka "Troll">,

Tried them... I'd really rather drink than have my brain shut down and be
filled with feelings of paranoia.

Just as some people are more drawn to the hemp, others are drawn to alcohol.
I read the rules of moderate drinking, I never drank that way and when the
intent is to get stinking drunk, those rules don't make much sense.

Either way, I see drug use as an attempt to avoid dealing with the issues
that bother me. I would rather not go through life in a stoned daze or a
drunken stupid.

Enjoy!

Kirk S.
>
>
> "J" <welshalky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:415ae489$1@news.greennet.net...
> > Interesting. It just goes to show that there's many different ways
> that one
> > can deal with one's alcoholism. I've tried to drink in moderation on
> many
> > occasions, but failed each time. The only solution for me total
> abstinance.
> > But, this isn't the end of the world. I lead my life like any other
> really,
> > apart from the fact I don't drink. When I'm not drinking, the drink
> doesn't
> > bother me too much. But, when I am drinking, it's all consuming and I
> can't
> > stop. For me, it's more of a physical dependance than an emotional
> > dependance.
> >
> > --
> > J
> >
> >
> >
> > Alcocure wrote:
> > > Alcoholism is not a disease - it is a behaviour problem with its
> roots
> > > in childhood. If these issues from the past can be identified and
> > > addressed, alcoholics can recover and be able to drink safely and
> > > normally again.
> > >
> > > Visit www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > alcocure
> >
> >
>
>