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Old 07-29-2004, 01:22 AM
H.P. Gawd
 
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A good definition of atheism


From here:
http://tinyurl.com/5se8p

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What is atheism?

Answer:

No, it's not a faith. No, it's not a religion. No, it's
not a philosophy. No, it's not based on faith. No, it's
not a denial of your space pixie. No, it doesn't denote
a belief that your space pixie doesn't exist. Atheism is
simply an adjective used to distinguish those of us who
don't buy into space pixie fantasies from those who do.
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Old 07-29-2004, 01:57 AM
Robert McGregor
 
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Re: A good definition of atheism


"H.P. Gawd" <hpgawd@non-anonymous.org> wrote in message
news:232hg0l2hcbci5igj651asq6hbvnc7fsan@4ax.com...
>
> From here:
> http://tinyurl.com/5se8p
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> What is atheism?
>
> Answer:
>
> No, it's not a faith. No, it's not a religion. No, it's
> not a philosophy. No, it's not based on faith. No, it's
> not a denial of your space pixie. No, it doesn't denote
> a belief that your space pixie doesn't exist. Atheism is
> simply an adjective used to distinguish those of us who
> don't buy into space pixie fantasies from those who do.
> --------------------------------------------------------


Guess that definition is as good as any space pixie fantasy I've
seen.

Bob


  #3  
Old 07-29-2004, 08:26 AM
Craig S.
 
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Re: A good definition of atheism

"H.P. Gawd" <hpgawd@non-anonymous.org> wrote in message
news:232hg0l2hcbci5igj651asq6hbvnc7fsan@4ax.com...
>
> From here:
> http://tinyurl.com/5se8p
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> What is atheism?
>
> Answer:
>
> No, it's not a faith. No, it's not a religion. No, it's
> not a philosophy. No, it's not based on faith. No, it's
> not a denial of your space pixie. No, it doesn't denote
> a belief that your space pixie doesn't exist. Atheism is
> simply an adjective used to distinguish those of us who
> don't buy into space pixie fantasies from those who do.
> --------------------------------------------------------


Space pixie? Hmm, doesn't hold quite the same charm for me as "stick daddy
in the sky," but it's not bad.


  #4  
Old 07-29-2004, 09:37 AM
Lech K. Lesiak
 
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Re: A good definition of atheism

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, H.P. Gawd wrote:

> No, it's not a faith. No, it's not a religion. No, it's
> not a philosophy. No, it's not based on faith. No, it's


I humbly beg to differ. Absolute, unqualified belief in the non-existence
in a Supreme Being, First Cause, God, Yahweh, or whatever is as
faith-based as the inchoate opinions of the most obnoxius tele-evangilist.

Agnosticism is the only logical position.

Cheers,
Lech

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Old 07-29-2004, 02:00 PM
Ron
 
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Re: A good definition of atheism

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:37:27 -0600, Lech K. Lesiak
<lklesiak@calcna.ab.ca> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, H.P. Gawd wrote:
>
>> No, it's not a faith. No, it's not a religion. No, it's
>> not a philosophy. No, it's not based on faith. No, it's

>
> I humbly beg to differ. Absolute, unqualified belief in the non-existence
> in a Supreme Being, First Cause, God, Yahweh, or whatever is as
> faith-based as the inchoate opinions of the most obnoxius tele-evangilist.
>
> Agnosticism is the only logical position.


Agnosticism is no position at all. It's the same position as that held
by a slug.

--
AB5DB9CC
  #6  
Old 07-29-2004, 03:57 PM
David M
 
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Re: A good definition of atheism

Lech K. Lesiak wrote:

> Agnosticism is the only logical position.


Any true agnostic would doubt that, too.


  #7  
Old 07-29-2004, 04:15 PM
neuro equipoise
 
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Re: A good definition of atheism

On - Thu, Jul 29, 2004, 6:00pm (EDT+4) can@the.spam (Ron) wrote:

> Agnosticism is no position at all. It's the same
> position as that held by a slug.



"Microsoft Recruits Sea Slugs"*

"Even the most primitive creature is more complex than the most advanced
computer system. This is why Microsoft Research and the University of
Washington are working together on a new project to study and analyze
the behavior of basic organisms, such as sea slugs.

"We in computer science have been trying figure out how to get a
computer to decide what is important and what is irrelevant," said Dr.
Eric Horvitz, head of Microsoft Research's decision theory and adaptive
systems group. "Well, it turns out that Mother Nature already does that
very well."

To study how organisms make these decisions, microprocessor specialist
Dr. Chris Diorio and biologist Dr. Dennis Willows from the University of
Washington are collaborating with Horvitz to implant a tiny silicon chip
in a sea slug.

What the researchers are trying to determine is not so much how a
creature decides what information is important, but how it discards what
is useless.

Researchers believe they can apply the methods used by slugs to
prioritize information on computer systems."

http://www.wired.com/news/technology...,14955,00.html

  #8  
Old 07-29-2004, 06:27 PM
Thomas Andrews
 
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Re: A good definition of atheism

>>No, it's not a faith. No, it's not a religion. No, it's
>>not a philosophy. No, it's not based on faith. No, it's

>
>
> I humbly beg to differ. Absolute, unqualified belief in the non-existence
> in a Supreme Being, First Cause, God, Yahweh, or whatever is as
> faith-based as the inchoate opinions of the most obnoxius tele-evangilist.
>
> Agnosticism is the only logical position.
>
> Cheers,
> Lech
>


Actually no. Agnostism and atheism are not mutually exclusive.

Gnostism deals with knowledge and theism deals with beleif.

An agnostic atheist is one who does not beleive in a deity due to lack
of evidence in said deity. But does not claim to know this for a fact.
(i.e. most atheists)

An agnostic theist is one who does beleive in a deity but claims no
knowledge about the deity. (i.e someone who beleives in a general god
but no one religion)
  #9  
Old 07-29-2004, 06:33 PM
Tommy
 
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Re: A good definition of atheism

H.P. Gawd <> quoted
> From here:
> http://tinyurl.com/5se8p
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> What is atheism?
>
> Answer:
>
> No, it's not a faith. No, it's not a religion. No, it's
> not a philosophy. No, it's not based on faith. No, it's
> not a denial of your space pixie. No, it doesn't denote
> a belief that your space pixie doesn't exist. Atheism is
> simply an adjective used to distinguish those of us who
> don't buy into space pixie fantasies from those who do.


Hmm, space is well, relative. Where/what is space.
Pixie??

What type of atheism are you describing?
Hindu-atheism, christian atheism, buiddhist atheism, catholic atheism,
protestant atheism, cognitive atheism, rejectionist atheism, ignorance
based atheism disinterested atheism ie, agnosticism/unrelated/ atheism.

It ponders a lot of questions.
I suggest a word with a spitiual advisor, or maybe a psychic will contact
you
Cheers
Tommy




  #10  
Old 07-29-2004, 07:03 PM
Bobby L.
 
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Re: A good definition of atheism


"H.P. Gawd" <hpgawd@non-anonymous.org> wrote in message
news:232hg0l2hcbci5igj651asq6hbvnc7fsan@4ax.com...
>
> From here:
> http://tinyurl.com/5se8p
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> What is atheism?
>
> Answer:
>
> No, it's not a faith. No, it's not a religion. No, it's
> not a philosophy. No, it's not based on faith. No, it's
> not a denial of your space pixie. No, it doesn't denote
> a belief that your space pixie doesn't exist. Atheism is
> simply an adjective used to distinguish those of us who
> don't buy into space pixie fantasies from those who do.
> --------------------------------------------------------
>


Perhaps it is better to keep it simple.

For me, the atheist is the one who believes there is no higher, stronger or
more knowledgable power than man;
The agnostic is one who is not willing to commit to the presence or absence
of that same power.

Bobby L


 


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