>>
>: >it is generally discussed when the group does their group
>: >conscience/inventory.
>:
>: Which would work nicely if they had one.
>
>
>
>
>i wouldn't belong to a group that didn't have
>them.......................
>are you sure your going to AA meetings?
>

My Friday night meeting doesn't have business meetings (or group conscience
meetings, if you will). I recently left that group for another because the
longer I am a member in AA, I see how this can have a negative impact on a
group, or, more specifically, my own sobriety. Many people have left the group
for the same reason. If so many group members *want* a monthly sub-meeting,
who is to say it cannot take place? Being so early in sobriety, it is
certainly not up to me ... change the things I can, right?

: Group conscience meetings I've attended have never been attended
by
: more than a very small number of those who regualrly atend the
: meetings I go to. As such, decisions taken at such meetings are
not
: the group- as-a whole's.
:
: JB
:
:


any GROUP CONSCIENCE/INVENTORY meeting that i have been part of, has
ALWAYS been announced ahead of time, and members can choose whether
to attend or not.
can't force anyone to come and "be a part
of"..............................it is their choice.

"Christine" <ctbean3@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040521095647.27780.00001967@mb-m11.aol.com...

:
: My Friday night meeting doesn't have business meetings (or group
conscience
: meetings, if you will).


does this meeting have a GSR?

On Fri, 21 May 2004 03:50:04 GMT, Ron <can@the.spam> wrote:

>I think line metaphors are misleading. No lines. I really wish there
>were, it would make life much simpler. Fuzzy probabilities.
>Continuities. Hard to tell when you cross from one domain into another.
>But somehow you still have to navigate through life, and make decisions,
>according to where you think you find yourself. Can't eliminate the
>arbitrary. Just have to make the best of it.

Thank you for this. I have decided to not tackle the interstate until
i get my spiritual legs under me.
rock.

On 21 May 2004 13:56:47 GMT, ctbean3@aol.com (Christine) wrote:

>>>
>>: >it is generally discussed when the group does their group
>>: >conscience/inventory.
>>:
>>: Which would work nicely if they had one.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>i wouldn't belong to a group that didn't have
>>them.......................
>>are you sure your going to AA meetings?
>>
>
>My Friday night meeting doesn't have business meetings (or group conscience
>meetings, if you will). I recently left that group for another because the
>longer I am a member in AA, I see how this can have a negative impact on a
>group, or, more specifically, my own sobriety. Many people have left the group
>for the same reason. If so many group members *want* a monthly sub-meeting,
>who is to say it cannot take place? Being so early in sobriety, it is
>certainly not up to me ... change the things I can, right?

I just learned that "Christine" was AV-4 (tail #21069), and was the
primary weapons test ship and she dropped the first-ever bomb from a
B-2. She got her nickname from "having a mind of her own."

quote unquote,

ur pal rock

On Thu, 20 May 2004 19:34:37 -0500, "Gail"
<sweetpawprints_920@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Gail, are you really going to sit in judgement of anyone who walks
>> into an AA meeting? Are you really so lily-white in your own
>> background as to have any qualification to do that?
>
>LOL! I am not on the most wanted list!

So the FBI has a hand in deciding AA membership?

I accept that Bin Laden is an absurd example on the basis that he'd
never get to a US AA meeting door in one piece, and I believe his
religious beliefs forbid drinking so he'd not qualify under Tradition
3 anyway (except some people's versions where a desire to stop
drinking would qualify a tee-totaller). However, the principle is
that I'd rather someone be in an AA meeting or otherwise recovering
from such a serious spiritual malady, than "out there" indulging that
malady, whoever they are.

>> How would you like it had people sat in judgement of you, and told you
>> to get out because you were too much of a slut among the local
>> community or something?
>
>Damn, who told you about my past?

I believe you may have mentioned it But I've not yet met a
lily-white alcoholic, male or female, so it was also a guess.

> Last I heard, being a slut wasn't a crime.
>I never did sell it.

As far as you know. Who knows what you did in blackout? However, I
believe that prostitutes outside of NV also deserve a chance.

>> I have known a child molester in AA (a former child slave-trader).
>> I've also known a murderer.
>
>Did they come to AA after serving prison time for their wrong doings?

No. Certainly not in the case of the murderer. He got away by
claiming self-defence, but now admits that as a wrestler he was
trained to throw people, and he timed it just right as a bus was
passing. He was also an armed robber, but got away with that too
because the Court lost his file or something.

> I can't find anything wrong with that at all. Sure, they are welcome.

By not being imprisoned, the gangster has helped many people recover.

>> >Also, unless a gay person has committed a brutal crime and has been put
>on
>> >the most wanted list, they have every right to be at an AA meeting as I
>do.
>>
>> So you're saying that someone who is insane and may need recovery the
>> most should to be the last person to get it because of judgement of
>> others within AA, the organisation where the buzz-word is insanity?
>> Now that really is a silly idea, isn't it?
>
>So, you are willing to turn the cheek if a known wanted child molester was
>to come into a meeting wanting to know how to quit drinking, yet leave that
>meeting and possibly molest another young child. That is insane!

I'm neither God nor a member of law enforcement. If he's alcoholic,
that living hell will be more than I could ever do or say anyway.
Meanwhile, there are pediatrics being mobbed for being "pedophiles".

--
Blue Moon

On Fri, 21 May 2004 03:44:10 GMT, Ron <can@the.spam> wrote:

>Would you treat someone with fresh blood on their clothes and a body in
>the car differently than someone who had paid society's (ill-concieved,
>ineffective, etc.) dues?

How would I know?

>But seriously *cough*, you know, we can all be happy! Leave people you
>don't like alone while the meeting takes place, and then bushwhack them
>outside afterwards with a rubber hose!

What anyone (myself included) does outside an AA group is a private
matter not necessarily related to alcoholic recovery. I wouldn't
preclude such a person from AA attendance, even if it required a few
people keeping a very close watch for any trouble.

Closer to reality for many AA members is the discussion of "what would
you do if someone was at an AA meeting, drove himself there drunk and
was going to drive home drunk?"

--
Blue Moon

>"Christine" <ctbean3@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20040521095647.27780.00001967@mb-m11.aol.com...
>
>:
>: My Friday night meeting doesn't have business meetings (or group
>conscience
>: meetings, if you will).
>
>
>does this meeting have a GSR?
>

Yeah, it does. This was my first ever AA meeting, and for weeks I didn't even
know what a business meeting *was*. I would hear announcements about them at
other meetings, and grumblings/wisecracks about not having them every Friday
night, but it was way over my head at the time. However, I joined a small NA
group and attended the business meeting there. I saw how important it really
is - how much in donations do we have, where is the money going, who has what
job, who is going to chair what commitment for the month, more personal
concerns for group members (if any), etc. Not to mention it definitely made me
feel as if I was more a *part* of something.

Then I started asking more questions about it on Friday nights, and I started
noticing a weird kind of patriarchal cult atmosphere at this particular
meeting. While my first instinct was to try and change the group dynamic, I
eased down a bit, changed groups, and no longer attend or support that
particular meeting. Too bad, really, however I'm realizing there is many more
groups out there that are more my speed.

Ron <can@the.spam> wrote:

>I think line metaphors are misleading. No lines. I really wish there
>were, it would make life much simpler. Fuzzy probabilities.
>Continuities. Hard to tell when you cross from one domain into another.
>But somehow you still have to navigate through life, and make decisions,
>according to where you think you find yourself. Can't eliminate the
>arbitrary. Just have to make the best of it.

THE organisers of the Tour de France have ruled out a proposal to
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celebrations.

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US turns border patrol over to foreign nation.


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Lot of women out mowing the lawn today. Little old ladies with
weedeaters, big mamas on ride-ons. Does this mean the men are inside
vacuuming?

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 00:14:05 GMT, rockhound <user@null.org> wrote:

> Lot of women out mowing the lawn today. Little old ladies with
> weedeaters, big mamas on ride-ons. Does this mean the men are inside
> vacuuming?

Women strapped on ride-ons, men with vacuum cleaners. That can only
mean one thing. It's the beginning of the machine age.

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