rosie wrote:

> : Christine wrote:
> .
> : >
> : >
> : > So much so that they have little kids hopped up on
> anti-depressants.
> :
>
>
> "Tono" <tono1@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:nJfpc.62186$wY.14264@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
>
> : LOL! I just love that old expression "hopped up on...". My anti
> : depressant doesn't "hop me up" at all. It does help keep me from
> : thinking about suicide most of the time like I used to.
> :
> :
> :
>
> tono,
> i sure would like to know what medication in the antidepressant
> class is the one that HOPS folks UP!
>

Shhhhh. I'll contact you later and set you up with my dealer. This
is an email and not on the group isn't it? That would really blow
my cover if I accidently posted this to the group! ;-)

Tono

"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
news:c85c63$kgs$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...


> Please note: I am not saying that because I don't need
> antidepressants no-one does.
>
> All the best
>
> JB


Noted..

Best,
Gail

: I'm convinced that AA's 12 Step programme is a far more effective
tool
: for me to use when I'm finding life difficult to cope with than
: antidepressants

a PERFECT example of situational depression, is when you can use the
12 step program to lift it!

let me say it again:

IT IS TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF
DEPRESSION............................one needs therapy and/or
medication, and the other simply needs a "good 12 step program".

LOL! TONO!

--
http://www.johnkerry.com/features/he...ime/email.html



"Tono" <tono1@verizon.net> wrote in message
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: rosie wrote:
:
: > : Christine wrote:
: > .
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > So much so that they have little kids hopped up on
: > anti-depressants.
: > :
: >
: >
: > "Tono" <tono1@verizon.net> wrote in message
: > news:nJfpc.62186$wY.14264@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
: >
: > : LOL! I just love that old expression "hopped up on...". My
anti
: > : depressant doesn't "hop me up" at all. It does help keep me
from
: > : thinking about suicide most of the time like I used to.
: > :
: > :
: > :
: >
: > tono,
: > i sure would like to know what medication in the antidepressant
: > class is the one that HOPS folks UP!
: >
:
: Shhhhh. I'll contact you later and set you up with my dealer.
This
: is an email and not on the group isn't it? That would really blow
: my cover if I accidently posted this to the group! ;-)
:
: Tono

rosie wrote:
>> I'm convinced that AA's 12 Step programme is a far more
effective
>> tool for me to use when I'm finding life difficult to
cope with than
>> antidepressants
>
> a PERFECT example of situational depression, is when you
can use the
> 12 step program to lift it!
>
> let me say it again:
>
> IT IS TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF
> DEPRESSION............................one needs therapy
and/or
> medication, and the other simply needs a "good 12 step
program".

"let me say it again"?

rosie the evader continues to evade the fact I was first
diagnosed with depression app 5 years *before* I started
drinking, so not surprising to see her tell outright fiction
to rationalise her drug habit.


"rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote
in message
news:d_rZa.76641$7O4.1782289@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> chronic depression, DOES NOT lift.
> by definition: "it is always there".
>


Bob

JB wrote:
> I'm convinced that AA's 12 Step programme is a far more effective tool
> for me to use when I'm finding life difficult to cope with than
> antidepressants (which I've taken at various times since I was 16).
> I've not taken ad's since the beginning of 2003 because neither my GP
> nor I have thought it necessary for me to take them..
>
> Please note: I am not saying that because I don't need
> antidepressants no-one does.

JB, do you have any idea what the difference between endogenous
depression and exogenous depression is? I didn't think so.

A little hint for you. Exogenous Depression is the type that is
triggered/caused by things outside the body. It's the type that
people can often get over with the proper attitude and/or therapy.

Endogenous Depression comes from within the body. It is in the
persons chemistry, a chemical imbalance. Sort of like having
cancer. You can think all the happy thoughts you want, but you
can't think it away.

Tono

Tono wrote:
> JB wrote:
>> I'm convinced that AA's 12 Step programme is a far more
effective
>> tool for me to use when I'm finding life difficult to
cope with than
>> antidepressants (which I've taken at various times since
I was 16).
>> I've not taken ad's since the beginning of 2003 because
neither my GP
>> nor I have thought it necessary for me to take them..
>>
>> Please note: I am not saying that because I don't need
>> antidepressants no-one does.
>
> JB, do you have any idea what the difference between
endogenous
> depression and exogenous depression is? I didn't think
so.
>
> A little hint for you. Exogenous Depression is the type
that is
> triggered/caused by things outside the body. It's the
type that
> people can often get over with the proper attitude and/or
therapy.
>
> Endogenous Depression comes from within the body. It is
in the
> persons chemistry, a chemical imbalance. Sort of like
having
> cancer. You can think all the happy thoughts you want,
but you
> can't think it away.
>


Tono, your theory is certainly what our "medico" drug
dealers would have us believe.

Interesting how those justifying their drug dependence on a
so called chemical imbalance, are unable to disclose how
their particular "imbalance" is actually measured.
Interesting too, how they avoid the hypotheses that if there
were indeed an holistic imbalance reflected by incorrect
thinking, surely it could be rectified by the application of
correct thinking.

Bob

http://tinyurl.com/2s33p
The Great Chemical Imbalance Hoax

Harvard psychiatrist Joseph Glenmullen (
http://tinyurl.com/36y6d ) reports that in spite of the
"absence of any verifiable diseases," psychopharmacology has
"not hesitated to construct 'disease models' for psychiatric
diagnoses. These models are hypothetical suggestions of what
might be the underlying physiology-for example, a serotonin
imbalance."

The cornerstone of psychiatry's disease model today is the
concept that a brain-based, chemical imbalance underlies
mental illness. While popularized by heavy public marketing,
it is simply psychiatric wishful thinking. As with all of
psychiatry's disease models, it has been thoroughly
discredited by researchers.

oh tono...............just shut up and do another fourth and fifth
step and your depression will go away!









"Tono" <tono1@verizon.net> wrote in message
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: JB wrote:
: > I'm convinced that AA's 12 Step programme is a far more
effective tool
: > for me to use when I'm finding life difficult to cope with than
: > antidepressants (which I've taken at various times since I was
16).
: > I've not taken ad's since the beginning of 2003 because neither
my GP
: > nor I have thought it necessary for me to take them..
: >
: > Please note: I am not saying that because I don't need
: > antidepressants no-one does.
:
: JB, do you have any idea what the difference between endogenous
: depression and exogenous depression is? I didn't think so.
:
: A little hint for you. Exogenous Depression is the type that is
: triggered/caused by things outside the body. It's the type that
: people can often get over with the proper attitude and/or therapy.
:
: Endogenous Depression comes from within the body. It is in the
: persons chemistry, a chemical imbalance. Sort of like having
: cancer. You can think all the happy thoughts you want, but you
: can't think it away.
:
: Tono

:
: rosie the evader continues to evade the fact I was first
: diagnosed with depression app 5 years *before* I started
: drinking, so not surprising to see her tell outright fiction
: to rationalise her drug habit.
:
: Bob
:
:

well robert, you have finally done it..................i am totally
unable to understand anything you just
posted..........................
i am evading nothing, i truly just don't understand WHAT it is you
are trying to say......................

TRULY!

rosie wrote:
>> rosie the evader continues to evade the fact I was first
>> diagnosed with depression app 5 years *before* I started
>> drinking, so not surprising to see her tell outright
fiction
>> to rationalise her drug habit.
>>
> : Bob
>>
>>
>
> well robert, you have finally done it..................i
am totally
> unable to understand anything you just
> posted..........................
> i am evading nothing, i truly just don't understand WHAT
it is you
> are trying to say......................
>
> TRULY!

Perhaps if you make an attempt to comprehend the
ramifications of what *you* say, would probably be a good
place to start comprehending what others say.


"rosie readandpost" <readandpostREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote
in message
news:d_rZa.76641$7O4.1782289@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> chronic depression, DOES NOT lift.
> by definition: "it is always there".
>

Bob