Hi
I have an anxiety problem & am seeing a Psychiatrist.
I had a painfull breakup with my girl in October, i didn't drink as i was
depressed & anxious & booze makes this worse.
As time as gone by & i'm healing slowly, still pain, but slowly. I've got
into my old ways, at evenings i have some red wine & then more red wine, but
after i eat i don't drink.

When i don't drink i feel healthy, i don't get sweats i don't feel my blood
is boiling & my face doesn't turn red, i hate that. I exercise regularly &
after a good run i crave a beer.

I know that before i crack open a beer or a wine, i will feel better in the
morning if i don't, so how can i stop myself, will power i don't have as i
say to myself that every one else i know does.
I see no mates as they all drink in the pub, so i am alone. I've met a new
girl, were friends & she like s a drink & the warm weather is coming, we'll
go cycling & have a beer at the end of it, so i'm stuck between a rock & a
hard place.
Any advice welcome
Gary

............................ so i'm stuck between a rock & a
: hard place.
: Any advice welcome
: Gary
:
:
:

only "stuck" if you want to be..................do you think your an
alcoholic?

On - Sun, May 2, 2004, 2:54pm (EDT+5) gary@marsden74.fsnet.co.uk (gary)
wrote:

> I have an anxiety problem & am seeing a
> Psychiatrist. I had a painfull breakup with my girl
> in October, i didn't drink as i was depressed &
> anxious & booze makes this worse. As time as
> gone by & i'm healing slowly, still pain, but slowly.

Welcome back Gary, I've been wondering how you were doing since your
last visit here.

http://www.moderation.org/

or maybe

http://www.smartrecovery.org/

If you're isolating yourself from friends at the pub, and may be about to
lose a potential great girlfriend, I wouldn't at this point turn to A.A.
anymore than I would join a monastery. I'd rather laugh with the sinners
than cry with the saints. And unless you truly are an alcoholic, I mean
heading for the gutter, don't cut off your head to cure a headcold.

Hi Neuro & Rosie
Well, i have found myself wanting to drink at about 5pm
each day & after exercise especially.
I'm trying to save money for a holliday, so i am not visiting the bar &
anyway, i don't want to get back into that rut again.
I believe i am an alcoholic, although if i crave a drink, but eat a large
meal instead, i then won't want to drink.
Fred, i am lonely because i don't visit the bar, this is all they do, the
only social place. I believe my anxiety will improve if i stop totally, but
if my anxiety goes away, i'll be happy & start drinking again.
I can go out with this girl & not drink at all, just tea or coffee, because
i'm clearer & don't get stuck for words.

Thanks & hope you are all ok.
Gary



Fred Exley <fexly221@msn.com> wrote in message
news:109c57u75nc8638@corp.supernews.com...
> http://www.moderation.org/
>
> or maybe
>
> http://www.smartrecovery.org/
>
> If you're isolating yourself from friends at the pub, and may be about to
> lose a potential great girlfriend, I wouldn't at this point turn to A.A.
> anymore than I would join a monastery. I'd rather laugh with the sinners
> than cry with the saints. And unless you truly are an alcoholic, I mean
> heading for the gutter, don't cut off your head to cure a headcold.
>
>

JB,
the examples given in the BIG BOOK for alcoholism are only the "tip
of the iceberg"...........................i hesitate to tell someone
that do NOT qualify to be an alcoholic, that is their job.

--
rosie

"You know the world is gone crazy when the best rapper is a white
guy,
the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is
Chinese,the
Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of
arrogance,
Germany does not want to go to war, and the three most powerful men
in
America are named 'Bush', 'Dick', and 'Colon'."
.................................................. .............Chris
Rock










"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
news:c782ul$tb6$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
:
: "gary" <gary@marsden74.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
: news:c7804r$r81$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
: > I believe i am an alcoholic, although if i crave a drink, but
eat a
: large
: > meal instead, i then won't want to drink.
:
: Maybe you'll be happy to know that this does not qualify you as an
: alcoholic as defined in "Alcoholics Anonymous" (Refs: Chapters
"The
: Dr's Opinon and Chapter "There is a Solution".
:
: JB
:
:

"gary" <gary@marsden74.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c7804r$r81$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> I believe i am an alcoholic, although if i crave a drink, but eat a
large
> meal instead, i then won't want to drink.

Maybe you'll be happy to know that this does not qualify you as an
alcoholic as defined in "Alcoholics Anonymous" (Refs: Chapters "The
Dr's Opinon and Chapter "There is a Solution".

JB

:
: Thanks & hope you are all ok.
: Gary
:

gary,
have you read the BIG BOOK yet?
why not read the first 164 pages, and see if you relate?

http://www.recovery.org/aa/bigbook/ww/chapter_3.html
http://www.recovery.org/aa/bigbook/ww/chapter_5.html
were the two most important chapters for me in the beginning of my
alcoholism journey.

not everyone qualifies as an alcoholic, remain honest with yourself
and others, and your answers will come.



--
rosie

"You know the world is gone crazy when the best rapper is a white
guy,
the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is
Chinese,the
Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of
arrogance,
Germany does not want to go to war, and the three most powerful men
in
America are named 'Bush', 'Dick', and 'Colon'."
.................................................. .............Chris
Rock










"gary" <gary@marsden74.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c7804r$r81$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
: Hi Neuro & Rosie
: Well, i have found myself wanting to drink at
about 5pm
: each day & after exercise especially.
: I'm trying to save money for a holliday, so i am not visiting the
bar &
: anyway, i don't want to get back into that rut again.
: I believe i am an alcoholic, although if i crave a drink, but eat
a large
: meal instead, i then won't want to drink.
: Fred, i am lonely because i don't visit the bar, this is all they
do, the
: only social place. I believe my anxiety will improve if i stop
totally, but
: if my anxiety goes away, i'll be happy & start drinking again.
: I can go out with this girl & not drink at all, just tea or
coffee, because
: i'm clearer & don't get stuck for words.
:
: Thanks & hope you are all ok.
: Gary
:
:
:
: Fred Exley <fexly221@msn.com> wrote in message
: news:109c57u75nc8638@corp.supernews.com...
: > http://www.moderation.org/
: >
: > or maybe
: >
: > http://www.smartrecovery.org/
: >
: > If you're isolating yourself from friends at the pub, and may be
about to
: > lose a potential great girlfriend, I wouldn't at this point turn
to A.A.
: > anymore than I would join a monastery. I'd rather laugh with
the sinners
: > than cry with the saints. And unless you truly are an
alcoholic, I mean
: > heading for the gutter, don't cut off your head to cure a
headcold.
: >
: >
:
:

sorry, if i misunderstood.
is your sarcasm necessary, on a daily basis?

--
rosie

always remember that the future comes one day at a time.
.............................d. acheson




"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
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:
: "rosie" <sorry@toomanyweirdo's.com> wrote in message
: news:_gMlc.20209$ee7.20018@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
: > JB,
: > the examples given in the BIG BOOK for alcoholism are only the
"tip
: > of the iceberg"...........................i hesitate to tell
someone
: > that do NOT qualify to be an alcoholic, that is their job.
: >
: > --
: > rosie
:
: Your reply suggests that you've misunderstood my post. Why am I
not
: surprised ? :^)
:
: > "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
: > news:c782ul$tb6$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
: > :
: > : "gary" <gary@marsden74.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
: > : news:c7804r$r81$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
: > : > I believe i am an alcoholic, although if i crave a drink,
but
: > eat a
: > : large
: > : > meal instead, i then won't want to drink.
: > :
: > : Maybe you'll be happy to know that this does not qualify you
as an
: > : alcoholic as defined in "Alcoholics Anonymous" (Refs:
Chapters
: > "The
: > : Dr's Opinon and Chapter "There is a Solution".
: > :
: > : JB
:
:

"rosie" <sorry@toomanyweirdo's.com> wrote in message
news:_gMlc.20209$ee7.20018@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> JB,
> the examples given in the BIG BOOK for alcoholism are only the "tip
> of the iceberg"...........................i hesitate to tell someone
> that do NOT qualify to be an alcoholic, that is their job.
>
> --
> rosie

Your reply suggests that you've misunderstood my post. Why am I not
surprised ? :^)

> "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
> news:c782ul$tb6$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> :
> : "gary" <gary@marsden74.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> : news:c7804r$r81$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> : > I believe i am an alcoholic, although if i crave a drink, but
> eat a
> : large
> : > meal instead, i then won't want to drink.
> :
> : Maybe you'll be happy to know that this does not qualify you as an
> : alcoholic as defined in "Alcoholics Anonymous" (Refs: Chapters
> "The
> : Dr's Opinon and Chapter "There is a Solution".
> :
> : JB