"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
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>
> "rosie" <sorry@toomanyweirdo's.com> wrote in message
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> > JB,
> > your response is EXACTLY what i'm talking about, and why i remain
> > concerned for you.........................yours is NOT the easier,
> > softer, way, even though it might seem like that sometimes.
> > call your sponsor, go to a meeting, and just don't drink.
> >
> > as always,
> > rosie
>
> Could you please explain what you mean by "yours is NOT the easier,
> softer way even though it might seem like that sometimes. call your
> sponsor, go to a meeting, and just don't drink".
>
> JB
>
>

Hi JB. I was just noticing the time of day that you post on each of your
post. Good God, do you do anything else during the day besides post in this
newsgroup? I gotta wonder and all the damn questions! I suggest you ask
yourself a few and move on girl.
I shall not answer you if you ask me why I post this question to you. I
shall just ask you the same question over and over again dear. That is what
you appear to be doing now for about 8 or so months isn't it? Why do you
care so much about everyone else's recovery and how we comprehend the
program of AA and less and less about your own? Just my opinion. For me, you
are getting so predictable that it isn't funny any more. Your post are old
news now. I will ask you, "Where are you on your steps". I am sure you would
be the first to throw that question to me or someone else.

All the best,

Gail

hey gail..................how are you?


--
rosie

on march 20, 2003, US troops invaded Iraq. At least 17,407 people
have been killed since then.
(756 were American military)






"Gail" <gailathome@charter.net> wrote in message
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:
: "JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
: news:c78uok$kvm$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
: >
: > "rosie" <sorry@toomanyweirdo's.com> wrote in message
: > news:M9Slc.21813$ee7.5007@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
: > > JB,
: > > your response is EXACTLY what i'm talking about, and why i
remain
: > > concerned for you.........................yours is NOT the
easier,
: > > softer, way, even though it might seem like that sometimes.
: > > call your sponsor, go to a meeting, and just don't drink.
: > >
: > > as always,
: > > rosie
: >
: > Could you please explain what you mean by "yours is NOT the
easier,
: > softer way even though it might seem like that sometimes. call
your
: > sponsor, go to a meeting, and just don't drink".
: >
: > JB
: >
: >
:
: Hi JB. I was just noticing the time of day that you post on each
of your
: post. Good God, do you do anything else during the day besides
post in this
: newsgroup? I gotta wonder and all the damn questions! I suggest
you ask
: yourself a few and move on girl.
: I shall not answer you if you ask me why I post this question to
you. I
: shall just ask you the same question over and over again dear.
That is what
: you appear to be doing now for about 8 or so months isn't it? Why
do you
: care so much about everyone else's recovery and how we comprehend
the
: program of AA and less and less about your own? Just my opinion.
For me, you
: are getting so predictable that it isn't funny any more. Your post
are old
: news now. I will ask you, "Where are you on your steps". I am sure
you would
: be the first to throw that question to me or someone else.
:
: All the best,
:
: Gail
:
:

"Gail" <gailathome@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Hi JB. I was just noticing the time of day that you post on each of
your
> post. Good God, do you do anything else during the day besides post
in this
> newsgroup?

Yes.

I gotta wonder and all the damn questions! I suggest you ask
> yourself a few and move on girl.

Have you considered the possibility that when I ask questions
sometimes it's in order to further my understanding of AA's 12 Step
programme ?. Such questions are for my benefit.

> For me, you
> are getting so predictable that it isn't funny any more.

Rarely do I treat as humorous issues either AA's 12 Step programme or
my own recovery from alcoholism. Tonight, at an AA meeting, I heard
stories about several AA folk who relapsed after being sober for
several years. A couple of them died soon after picking up again. I
have not yet achieved one year of sobriety this time round. For as
long as I think my recovery benefits from what I do here and
elsewhere, I shall keep on doing it. If you have a problem with what
I do you have to find a way to deal with it.

> I will ask you, "Where are you on your steps".

Step 8

I am sure you would
> be the first to throw that question to me or someone else.

>Gail

How can I be the first to throw such a question at you, when you've
already asked it of me ? :^)

JB

On Wed, 5 May 2004 01:02:15 +0100, JB <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote:

> I have not yet achieved one year of sobriety this time round.

Me neither.

I'm a good one for demarking progress in established measures of time
myself. I was thinking about this recently because someone at an AA
meeting I regularly attend asked me if I wanted to become a 'member' of
the group. I asked what that meant. They facetiously said I would get
cake after a year. Of course I joined.

Anyway, I'm thinking I really don't care about being sober for one year
any more than I care about being sober for one more day. (Interesting
thing about that 'one day at a time' expression: it has multiple useful
meanings.) One year isn't like reaching the top of a mountain; it just
means you've climbed a little further up the side of it.

I'm being a sap, and that's my pithy aphorism for the day.

--
AB5DB9CC

On - Wed, May 5, 2004, 3:52am (EDT+4) can@the.spam (Ron) wrote:

> Anyway, I'm thinking I really don't care about
> being sober for one year any more than I care
> about being sober for one more day. (Interesting
> thing about that 'one day at a time' expression: it
> has multiple useful meanings.) One year isn't like
> reaching the top of a mountain; it just means
> you've climbed a little further up the side of it.


Tao Of Relativity

To know that the universe is but as a tare-seed, and the tip of a hair
is as big as a mountain, -- this is the expression of relativity -
Chuang Tzu. Autumn Floods

"Dimensions are limitless; time is endless. Conditions are not constant;
terms are not final. Thus, the wise man looks into space, and does not
regard the small as too little, nor the great as too much; for he knows
that there is no limit to dimensions. He looks back into the past, and
does not grieve over what is far off, nor rejoice over what is near; for
he knows that time is without end. He investigates fullness and decay,
and therefore does not rejoice if he succeeds, nor lament if he fails;
for he knows that conditions are not constant. He who clearly apprehends
the scheme of existence does not rejoice over life, nor repine at death;
for he knows that terms are not final."*


"Relativity teaches us the connection between the different descriptions
of one and the same reality.
A human being is a part of a whole, called by us _universe_, *** a
part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his* thoughts
and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical
delusion of his* consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for
us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few
persons nearest to us.* Our task must be to free ourselves from this
prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living
creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." - Albert Einstein

http://www.mindgazer.org/tao/

"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
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> "Gail" <gailathome@charter.net> wrote in message
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>
> Have you considered the possibility that when I ask questions
> sometimes it's in order to further my understanding of AA's 12 Step
> programme ?. Such questions are for my benefit.

I sortof doubt that. How is obsessing about Rosie going to benefit you?


>
> > For me, you
> > are getting so predictable that it isn't funny any more.
>
> Rarely do I treat as humorous issues either AA's 12 Step programme or
> my own recovery from alcoholism. Tonight, at an AA meeting, I heard
> stories about several AA folk who relapsed after being sober for
> several years. A couple of them died soon after picking up again. I
> have not yet achieved one year of sobriety this time round. For as
> long as I think my recovery benefits from what I do here and
> elsewhere, I shall keep on doing it. If you have a problem with what
> I do you have to find a way to deal with it.

Oh, I don't have a problem with it. Just really tired of the obsession you
have. Might suggest reading page 449. I, like you, wasted a lot of time
obsessing on people, places and things. I lost my serenity when doing that.
Do you?

>
> > I will ask you, "Where are you on your steps".
>
> Step 8

Oh, ok.

>
> I am sure you would
> > be the first to throw that question to me or someone else.
>
> >Gail
>
> How can I be the first to throw such a question at you, when you've
> already asked it of me ? :^)

But JB, I don't usually ask that question to anyone. Really isn't any of my
business. You are so good at manipulating the questions and/or answers..
When I read what you post, I can't see or feel the serenity in your post
like I can from others who post here. You do more nit picking and analying
than sharing your ESP. I am sorry but, that is how *I* feel and what I get
from your post now days. To be honest, all these months. I feel like you
have portrayed to me a better than thou attitude. You know, I have lots more
respect for Rosie for putting up with your harrassment. She is evidently
stronger than you think. I have never heard Rosie say she had wanted a drink
since she has been posting in here. I can't say the same about you. It
really isn't any of my business how Rosie, you or anyone else is keeping
from taking that drink. Also, I appreciate Rosie posting the readings in
this group. Shit, I don't even take the time to do that and I don't see
anyone else doing it either. Thanks Rosie! Also, I don't see Rosie spending
all her spare time trying to get back at you. Evidently, Rosie's resentment,
if she has one against you, is lots smaller than the one I notice in your
posts. Sorry, I just felt like I needed to say this. Maybe because I see me
and how I used to act, in you. Page 449.
And before you or anyone else ask, no, I am not in anyone's fan club. I will
give credit where credit is due, though.

All the best,

Gail

"rosie" <sorry@toomanyweirdo's.com> wrote in message
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> hey gail..................how are you?
>
>
> --
> rosie
>


I am doing good. Thank you for asking.

Have a great day!

Gail

:
: Have a great day!
:
: Gail
:
:

i sure am going to try!

"Gail" <gailathome@charter.net> wrote in message
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<questions and comments snipped>

Dear Gail,

At this time, all that I'm willling to say is that I've noted your
questions and comments.

JB

"JB" <JBCatRB@coldman.com> wrote in message
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> "Gail" <gailathome@charter.net> wrote in message
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> <questions and comments snipped>
>
> Dear Gail,
>
> At this time, all that I'm willling to say is that I've noted your
> questions and comments.
>
> JB
>
>

I probably offended you. I don't know. If I did, it is because I can relate
to not having people act the way I would like them to act. Just seems like
you have wasted a whole lot of time trying to discredit Rosie and for me,
that is time I am wasting on not working on myself. You and I both know
someone who use to post in here and left because that person had no
tolerance or patience for Rosie and some others in here. That person
proclaims to have worked the steps and been sober for some time. I don't
want that kind of recovery for myself. I am not patient or tolerant all the
time. Just ask the cashier that checked me out at the grocery store the
other day. I am doing the best I can today to be patient and tolerant of
others. It is hard at times. But really, is Rosie, myself or anyone else in
here worth the loss of serenity, patience or tolerance today? I expect that
you would and have pointed out to me what you might see me doing that isn't
good for my recovery and I thank you. To be honest here, I don't feel good
after I read your posts to Rosie and some others in here. In fact, it is the
same for me in an AA meeting when I hear someone putting down the members. A
real turn off for me.
Anyway, take care and I hope I haven't made an enemy of you.
All the best,
Gail