"rosie" <sorry@toomanymalcontents.com> wrote in message
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>
> :................. You have so much to give the
> : newcomer Robert. Please reconsider your discussion about
> attending
> : meetings.
> : you're a very special person,
> : Julie
> : >
> : >
>
> i totally agree with you julie............................
>
>


"rosie readandpost" <readandpost@REMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message

<MU0Fa.72106$jT4.1515242@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>

> i stay in ARAA (with an active killfile) to share my experience,
strength
and hope and to remind those who come, that
> these few folks ARE NOT a sample of the loving understanding, that
can be
found in AA and other support groups!

On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 12:10:43 GMT, rosie <sorry@toomanymalcontents.com>
wrote:

> if you are NOT an alcoholic, your attitude about drinking should
> serve you well.
>
> for instance, i have seen NON-ALCOHOLICS quit drinking, and stay
> quit for medical reasons, and they were fine.

You can guarantee these truths with absolute certainty if you adopt a
conforming definition of alcoholism.

--
AB5DB9CC

"Robert McGregor" <robert_mcgregor@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Julie" <Julie919@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:i02dc.991$zj3.653@newsread3.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> >
> >Please reconsider your discussion about attending
> > meetings.
> > >
>
> The *only* requirement for AA membership being a desire to stop
> drinking,
>
Thats right Robert, that is the requirement to BECOME a member. No one said
you LOST your membership after you managed to stop. I didnt expect you to
responed to my post I just wanted you to think about what you could offer
others at AA.
Much love,
Julie
>
>amongst other considerations, I have neither need nor
> intention to drink again, merely to qualify.
>
> Bob
>
>

:
: You can guarantee these truths with absolute certainty if you
adopt a
: conforming definition of alcoholism.
:


i guarantee nothing, and have NO conforming definition of
alcoholism..............the operative word there being
"conforming"....................we alkies don't agree on anything!


--
rosie

http://airamericaradio.com/www/pub/globalDefault.htm
AIR AMERICA RADIO



"Ron" <can@the.spam> wrote in message
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: On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 12:10:43 GMT, rosie
<sorry@toomanymalcontents.com>
: wrote:
:
: > if you are NOT an alcoholic, your attitude about drinking should
: > serve you well.
: >
: > for instance, i have seen NON-ALCOHOLICS quit drinking, and stay
: > quit for medical reasons, and they were fine.
:
: You can guarantee these truths with absolute certainty if you
adopt a
: conforming definition of alcoholism.
:
: --
: AB5DB9CC
:

"rosie" <sorry@toomanymalcontents.com> wrote in message
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>...................we alkies don't agree on anything!

The tremendous fact for every one of us is that we have discovered a common
solution. We have a way out on which we can absolutely agree, and upon which
we can join in brotherly and harmonious action. This is the great news this
book carries to those who suffer from alcoholism.

pg. 17

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 11:29:13 +0000, Tom wrote:

> The tremendous fact for every one of us is that we have discovered a common
> solution. We have a way out on which we can absolutely agree, and upon which
> we can join in brotherly and harmonious action. This is the great news this
> book carries to those who suffer from alcoholis

But we can't agree on the theistic demagoguery behind Bill W. either. I
think the BB is mostly insane ranting for example.

"Tom" <whatleyyeltahw@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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:
: "rosie" <sorry@toomanymalcontents.com> wrote in message
: news:vbjdc.74771$4B1.53656@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
:
: >...................we alkies don't agree on anything!
:
: The tremendous fact for every one of us is that we have discovered
a common
: solution. We have a way out on which we can absolutely agree, and
upon which
: we can join in brotherly and harmonious action. This is the great
news this
: book carries to those who suffer from alcoholism.
:
: pg. 17
:
:




yes, yes, i know..................................

:
: But we can't agree on the theistic demagoguery behind Bill W.
either. I
: think the BB is mostly insane ranting for example.


i have always believed that NO ONE can complicate the shit out of
nothing, like an alcoholic can, and this causes some to do nothing
but argue........................
this newsgroup can at times be a perfect example of that.
KEEPING IT SIMPLE and TAKING WHAT YOU NEED was some very helpful
direction for me.



--
rosie

http://airamericaradio.com/www/pub/globalDefault.htm
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"Gary Hunter" <angryfluff@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
newsan.2004.04.09.08.44.27.158907@sbcglobal.net. ..
: On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 11:29:13 +0000, Tom wrote:
:
: > The tremendous fact for every one of us is that we have
discovered a common
: > solution. We have a way out on which we can absolutely agree,
and upon which
: > we can join in brotherly and harmonious action. This is the
great news this
: > book carries to those who suffer from alcoholis
:
: But we can't agree on the theistic demagoguery behind Bill W.
either. I
: think the BB is mostly insane ranting for example.

"rosie" <sorry@toomanymalcontents.com> wrote in message
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> KEEPING IT SIMPLE and TAKING WHAT YOU NEED was some very helpful
> direction for me.
>
From: "rosie@readandpost" <readandpost@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ZPSl5.19140$E05.340458@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech .net>

>i am thinking about asking my pdoc to increase my celexa to
>60mg..........anyone else in here have good results with that dosage?
>my 40mg seems to be "pooping out"...........


"rosie@readandpost" wrote in Message
<uoCc6.24059$Af.608669@typhoon.mw.mediaone.net>

>if there is a "better" antidepressant out there, i sure would like to
read
>about it!

Rosie, when the going gets tough, exemplifies confusion about what is
actually needed, while she is whacked into emotional anaesthesia by
her treasured drugs. Rosie will probably never learn the difference
between simplicity, and absurdity.

Bob

On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:49:05 GMT, Gary Hunter
<angryfluff@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>This is the first guy I can get to go out with
>me from AA and I blow his sobriety.

He blew his own sobriety, if there was any to start with. It's clear
that neither of you is particularly serious about the process.

>Mainly AA members are just people I see during meetings. It isn't
>much of a fellowship if it doesn't extend beyond the places we gather.

The "fellowship" the book refers to is the fellowship of having done
the work involved in the Steps. I have experienced this type of
fellowship, and it can create some useful conversations. Rather
different is the "fellowship" that may be found in the typical AA
group where a proportion seem to equate "fellowship" with "safety in
numbers".

--
Blue Moon