"Philosopher" <hammerfan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> My hat is off to those people who have struggled with these problems
> and try to be sober.
>

"Try to be sober"?
Jeez, have you ever taken your classic *enabling* "philosophy" to Al-Anon
http://www.ola-is.org/ and been shown your role in your dramas.

Bob