"Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
news:47A821F5.94384EA4@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
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> Jamffer wrote:
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> > "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
> > news:47A6EE9A.6A863357@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
> > > According to the 12 steps advocated by Alcoholics Anonymous,
alcoholics
> > > are supposed to turn to God/A higher power for help in overcoming
> > > alcoholism. Alcoholics are to believe that a higher power can restore
> > > them to sanity, turn their wills and lives over to God, admit to God
the
> > > exact nature of their wrongs, ask God to remove their shortcomings,
and
> > > seek through prayer and meditation to improve their conscious contact
> > > with God.
> > >
> > > If an alcoholic happens to be an atheist, how would he apply the 12
> > > Steps?
> > >
> > > If an alcoholic atheist is COURT ORDERED to attend AA meetings, would
> > > this constitute an infringement on their First Amendment right to
> > > freedom of religion?
> >
> > You need to do what all Christians do.
> >
> > You need to (pretend) that a God exists.
> >
> > It doesn't matter whether God is or isn't, just (try to believe) that
there
> > is a God, no matter how ridiculous it seems.
> >
> > If you are cured of alcoholism and God wasn't real then who cares if God
is
> > imaginary?
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> If you don't truly BELIEVE in God, how can you use faith in Him to cure
your
> alcoholism?
>
Faith is really (self hypnosis) it has been proven in tests to create real
physical body changes as (imaginary fire on hand) creating blisters etc.
This same principle is the real effect of placebos, which most doctors know
about and use.