Ken wrote:
> GILL wrote:
>> Ken wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> In a long post (Re: Alcoholics Anonymous challenged to take part in
>>> an open debate, 11/21/2007) Gill accused me,
>>>
>>> "You cut/paste and write out of context, what, should I believe your
>>> crap?"
>>>
>>> Aside from having no clue what he is talking about because I had cut
>>> _nothing_ from the thread, here is the report from the New York World
>>> Telegram on an interview with Frank B, Bill Wilson's and Dr. Bob's
>>> spiritual leader.
>>
>> Wasn't talking about the thread you dork, I was talking about your so
>> called book.
>>
>
> Gill,
>
> So then I was correct that you didn't read it.
>
>>>
>>> Nothing has been cut out which is probably just as well because it
>>> sounds even worse in its entirety.
>>>
>>> I am awaiting further silly response from Gill to distract from the
>>> issues at hand.
>>
>> What issue? That you have and underlying motive to attack AA?
>
> Telling the truth about AA is attacking AA? That is a very, very sad
> defense but probably the best one you have
You call pulling things out of
history that have absolutely no
relevance to AA truth?
Why don't you point out anything in
the book Alcoholics Anonymous
that is causing all these murders
and antisemitism you referred to.
>
>> Let's see, you failed yourself trying AA.
>
> I failed? Wasn't AA supposed to help me stop drinking? How bizarre to
> accuse those who resolve drinking problems far, far better without A.A.
> of "failing A.A." Can you not see a serious problem with your thinking?
Oh, so your sober?
So in a newsgroup that on topic
discussion should be RECOVERY from
drugs and or alcohol you insist on
bashing some of the members
organized methods of support?
That's a definition of a TROLL.
>
> Would you also argue that someone who doesn't get over pneumonia with
> penicillin but does much, much better with another antibiotic has
> "failed penicillin"?
>
> Unlike you, I'm trying to stay away from name-calling but there are a
> few words that come to mind.
>
>> You and a bunch of other book sellers don't want the court system to
>> send people to AA,
>
> What about the U.S. Circuit Courts that have made the rulings and the
> U.S. Supreme Court which has chosen _not_ to challenge the Circuit
> Courts' ruling that coercion into A.A. is illegal?
What about it? Do you think AA
WANTED all the court cards in AA? I
guess the Judges can send them to
some of your buddies to get their
cards signed. Or you can visit them
in jail to listen to how they were
framed.
>
>> and some of these book writers just happen to have another way for
>> alcoholics to get sober, right?
>
> Well, if you are going to call almost any way except AA, then I suppose
> I have "another way."
So you really have no other way, is
that your message here? Oh yeah,
"Look out, the murdering AAs are
coming after the jews!"
>
>> Oh, and all of the recovery hospitals and homes need to stop this
>> spreading of Fascist followers and murderers.
>
> Hey, it isn't my fault that you are a follower of Frank B's so-called
> "spiritual principles" sanitized to deceive the public. Nor is it my
> fault that so many people die "waiting for the miracle" because they
> have been convinced by the Steppers they are Powerless.
It's our little
secret.......shhhhhhhh... we eat
the weaker ones.
>
>> Wow, this sounds like a job for Homeland Security!
>> Thanks for exposing this evil organization.
>> Sorry for the silly response, it's just that your so silly.
>
> Actually, you are acting in a very, very predictable fashion. You might
> want to take a look at an article title "Cult Busting" about how cult
> members act when their cult is criticized at:
> http://www.morerevealed.com/articles/cult_busting.jsp
Hey you resemble some kooky
conspiracy theorists. You may want
to check your actions here: >
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory


>
>> Enough from me.........Troll on
>
> Is only speaking with reverence of the codification of Oxford Group
> spiritual principles, the Twelve Steps not trolling here? Is one only
> allowed to speak of the resolution of drinking problems through the
> adopting neo-Buchmanistic religion?
You haven't done so one iota.