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Old 05-08-2007, 11:01 PM
Ken
 
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Re: No help for alcoholism - Discrimination

Robert McGregor wrote:
> On Mon, 07 May 2007 10:24:01 -0700, Ken wrote:
>
>> Robert McGregor wrote:
>>> On Sun, 06 May 2007 22:43:32 -0700, Ken wrote:
>>>
>>>> To get a bit of insight as to what AA is today, it might help to see
>>>> where AA came from. There is a brief and very kind-and-gentle chapter
>>>> on the history of AA at:
>>> LOL Bro Ken would never let facts mar the composition of a kind-and-gentle
>>> fable.
>>>

>> Robert,
>>
>> Would you care to "share" with us where the chapter on history (
>> http://www.morerevealed.com/library/mr/newmr_5.jsp ) is incorrect? Most
>> certainly, sticking to Oxford Group and AA historical sources, it was
>> kind and gentle. If I had gone outside those two sources (e.g. like
>> Orange Papers) or had pointed out more of the obvious, it would not have
>> been so kind and gentle.

>
>
> Ken, I'll gladly leave the pleasure of debating the integrity of your
> selective "research" to the hordes of new onlookers as I'm far too
> humble to monopolise *all* the podium here. Besides, our dual on this
> topic is already archived on google, more than once.
>


Robert,

You do have a point saying selective research, although I'm not sure
what you use the quotes for. I was very selective and for the most part
only looked at AA an Oxford Group materials for the history chapter.

As far as "our dual on this topic [being] already archived on google,"
the last I remember was you apparently taking lessons from Virt rather
than directly dealing with anything from the AA and OG literature that
puts AA in a bad light.

Of course, it is understandable why you wouldn't want to deal with what
was actually written. It is hard to say that AA was lying about itself
when they tell of doing dishonest things, misrepresenting themselves, to
win new members. (e.g. the first page of the book where I tell the story
of Morgan most tellingly in a direct quote from AA Comes of Age at
http://www.morerevealed.com/library/mr/newmr_5.jsp ).


Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com/library/