"Bobby L" <bobbyl2000@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Darren" <darren@notathome.net> wrote in message
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> > "Bobby L" <bobbyl2000@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:wwsre.97650$8S5.2605@bignews3.bellsouth.net.. .
> > >
> > > "Darren" <darren@notathome.net> wrote in message
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> > > > At tonights meeting and on many meetings in the past, members stated
> > > > something on the lines that step 9 isn't about quelling your
concience
> > but
> > > > making the other person feel better. I don't understand. What has
that
> > to
> > > do
> > > > with sobriety? also one member felt bad because he felt good about a
> > > person
> > > > forgiving him... WHAT? If the person who is making amends feels good
> as
> > > well
> > > > as the person he/she is making amends too then where's the harm?
> surely
> > if
> > > > you're feeling good and because you are feeling good then thats a
good
> > > > thing, yes?
> > > >
> > > > Darren
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Darren,
> > >
> > > I sometimes get the results of my actions confused with the purpose.
As
> I
> > > understand the purpose of steps 4 through 9, it is to shape us to
better
> > > serve God and the people around us. One of the redeeming virtues of
> > > reaching step 9 and continuing through this point is that sometimes it
> > makes
> > > us feel better also.
> > >
> > > "Our real purpose is to fit ourselves to be of maximum service to God
> and
> > > the people about us."
> > Bobby. I'm not a Christian. If I wanted to become a christian I would go
> to
> > church. If I were to draw a list of religions of choice in desired order
> > then christianity would be well down near the bottom.
> > >
> > > As to feeling bad because I felt good because I was given a gift which
I
> > did
> > > not deserve.....Hmmmmmmm I am with you on this one -- I don't get
> that
> > > either.
> > As I say, we will drink on feeling bad and not on feeling good
> >
> > Darren
> >
> >
>
>
> Who gives a shit whether or not you want to be a Christian?
I do
> I didn't bring up Christianity.. you did.... and even sounded a little
pissy
> about it.
That's right. I did. Fed up of cearing chritian preaching in AA meetings.
>This is not about you and what you do or do not want to do. This
> is about getting and staying sober.
That's a contrdiction. Its about me getting and staying sober so it is about
me and what I want to do.
> You wanted to know what step 9 was about ...
>so I did this really amazing
> feat. I read it out of the Book that introduces step 9. You might try it
> sometime.
No. I know what step 9 is about. I wanted to know it's relevence to me
staying sober.
>Now all that passage did was mention God, it did not say which
> God, or whose God or this God or that God --- you could be Jewish, Muslim,
> Buddhist, Hindu, Wiccan, Zoroastrian or whatever for all I care. The more
> important thing, I believe is the true heartfelt realization neither you
nor
> I are God..... of anything.
>
For all you care? When did this become about you? Besides, You missed the
point completely.
> If you have an axe to grind, you've picked the wrong whetstone.
Of course I have an axe to grind. I'm an alcoholic. I have several axes to
grind. What alcoholic doesn't. and *if* that's some sort of threat then
bring it on.

Darren