dan mcgown wrote:
> "The Glass Prison" <glassprison51@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1118813333.837757.38360@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>OK! That fucking does it! Enough of this shit!
>>
>>If you are a member and believer of any 12-step program, YOU ARE NOT or
>>WILL NEVER BE MY FRIEND. I dislike 12-step groupers and it's taken me
>
>
> I can't begin to tell you how devastated we all are by your rejection.
> How will we ever go on? Seriously, instead of just screaming and calling
> names, why don't you try to get control of the anger so that you can
> rationally explain specifically what it is that has made you so angry.
> If you really want to make your point effectively, yelling won't
> convince anyone while a reasoned explanation might pursuade someone to agree
> with you.
>
>

Dan,

I don't know what in particular he is angry about but I've seen that
anger directed at Steppers before and I've seen their responses.

Of course, no matter what people in The Program do, it is a persons' own
fault they are angry. They need to turn it over to God, to forgive, to
work a Step, etc.

I know a woman who was gang raped and her spiritual advisors (folks with
Time) tried to make her make amends to the rapists.

I've never seen group members own up to anything in the groups. Doesn't
matter, rape, child-molesting, gossiping a Fifth Step all over town,
old-timers trying to get newcomers to put out in exchange for drugs.
I've seen it all. Or at least sometimes I think so until I see more.

Good thing he is not attending group meetings and buying all the
spirtual crap. You guys would take action, I'm sure, that would push
him off the deep end. Then you can sit around, "Tut, tut. Some must die
so others can live."

Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com

P.S. Glass Prison, you are more than welcome to post your story in the
stories section at morerevealed.com. It is good to hear people speak
out and not be cowed and coerced into "making amends" for what was done
to them.