stuart <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> <NutSoFast@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On 13-Jun-2005, "stuart" <fred@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Fact is, you haven't.
> > > This Ken Ragge would appear to be someone with an agenda. This type of
> > > newsgroup offers some free advertising. I suspect he's selling tapes,
or
> a
> > > book or something.
> >
> > In all honesty Stuart (I made sure to double-checked your name)...
> > I've never had reason to form any opinion about him until today.
> >
> > It would seem that anyone who puts that much energy into
> > debunking 'the program' would have an agenda. But perhaps
> > he is what he claims to be... some sort of anti-crusader. Who
> > knows?
>
> Ken and his cohorts aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. Firstly, to
> come to a discussion forum with books for sale is amateurish at best.
> Secondly, and most sadly, is that Ken may have some good ideas, and many
> legitimate points
> Basic principles of salesmanship 101 in the 21st century, the information
> age, the "new age" the age of enlightenment are paramount. Are you
listening
> Ken?
> The basic premise is that reasonably intelligent and able people can
> entertain conflicting ideas simlutaneously. Ken does not understand this.
> Secondly, never never never run down the alternatives, ie "the
competition"
> if you will. Most readers will immediately begin to think you are afraid
or
> resentful of them. Bad bad bad. Problem here is that their whole package
is
> predicated on running down AA.
> By doing that, in a forum such as this, he allows his denigration of AA to
> extend to AA members, and therefore attacking a huge chunk of his
potential
> market, or at least potential followers of his ideas. Those who are here
who
> are not XA members see him attacking those who are. Very bad from a
> marketing perspective.
> What would work much better for him IMO, it to use the "yes, but"
> technique...
> example," I got sober in AA and I believe in the steps..."
> "yes, but that took you to a certain point in recovery, and although you
may
> want to stay with AA, have you considered...etc etc
>
> > NutSo (aka CW aka C Dub)
>
>