John K. wrote:

> Ken Ragge <ken@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:42AD05DC.4090106@nospam.com...
>
>>Most people end up abstaining or moderating alcohol and drug use with no
>>outside assistance whatsoever. Most people who go to 12-Step struggle
>>to give it up sometimes for the rest of their lives.
>>
>
>
> You are missing just one key fact here Ken. The vast majority of people who
> show up in 12-Step meetings have *already tried* to moderate or abstain on
> their own and failed miserably. Why on earth would any serious drinker go
> anywhere near AA if he could get out of trouble by "cutting back a little" ?
> If he was coerced into going (and most of them were in trouble long before
> the judge got involved), why in the world would he go back after his tour of
> duty was up ?
>
> John K.

I'm glad "already tried" is in quotes. It is hard to tell just what you
and other groupers mean by that. I wish you'd explain.

Why do some people continue to go to Step meetings after being released
by the courts? The same reason Hari Krishnas, Moonies and Heaven's Gate
(Total Recovery Anonymous) members continue to go back.

They have been so torn down "ego deflation" that they really believe
what they've been told, that "jails, institutions, and death" awaits
anyone who leaves.

Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com