How to profit Kem. Create your own question and then provide an answer by
"someone else"
Your're as sleazy as Orange.
Lets do an infomercial.
Ken Ragge <ken@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:42AD05DC.4090106@nospam.com...
> M$Man wrote:
> > I'm a 30 yr old man clean for 98 days. My drug of choice was coke, with
a
> > screw driver chaser to clean my throat after every line, I started using
in
> > college 12 years ago and was a daily user for 6 years. I spent 30 days
in a
> > controlled detox, while there I was forced to attend 12 step meetings. I
see
> > an addiction therapist weekly, who tells me in every session that I am
only
> > buying time, and can never maintain my sobriety with out a program. I
have
> > made several attempts to find a meeting that's right for me, but
haven't. I
> > am also an agnostic, and have deep issues with the theocratic structure
of
> > AA. I am a high-bottom addict I'm told, in that I have never lost every
> > thing and been forced to live in the gutter and sale my ass for a bottle
of
> > Absolute. That's part of my issue with the program as well, its designed
for
> > people that have hit bottom and can go no lower, a jail house conversion
if
> > you will. While I did reached that point, that is, I became so disgusted
> > with the unmanageable downward spiral my life was taking, I still
managed to
> > keep it together. Never lost my job, house, family, friends, and they
have
> > all supported me through my recovery.
> >
> > So my question is, are there people out there that have managed to stay
> > clean and sober with out the program? Is my desire to stay sober and
live to
> > see 40 enough to sustain me? I think it is, I mean, I had the
wherewithal to
> > admit myself, and dry out, and have maintained for 68 days since I got
out!
> >
> > Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks - Chris
> >
> >
> Chris,
>
> Most people end up abstaining or moderating alcohol and drug use with no
> outside assistance whatsoever. Most people who go to 12-Step struggle
> to give it up sometimes for the rest of their lives.
>
> The Step groups aren't merely religious, they are religious cults and an
> offshoot of a pro-fascist Fundamentalist Christian cult called the
> Oxford Group. There is a lot of information about them at:
> http://www.morerevealed.com . Maybe very interesting to you is a book
> on the website which goes into AA history, its "success" rates
> (actuallly it is a horrible failure) and the techniques they use to
> destablilize people and gain new recruits.
> http://www.morerevealed.com/books/mr/
>
> It isn't really surprising that people who sit around talking about
> alcohol and drugs for years on end and under constant pressure to an
> authoritarian religious cult don't do nearly as well as those who stop
> or moderate and move on with life.
>
> Ken Ragge
>